I got the same mail, but did not open it. I trust you, Jared, but the mail looks waaaayyyyyyy to suspicious.
It got the old "Permanent Delete" treatment. Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional -----Original Message----- Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 1:15 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Jared, Did you send the list/me some mail with "Your Details" as subject line. It has some .pif file as extention. Maybe that is some virus, So wanted to make sure before i open it. Thanks. >From: Jared Still <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: Nature of Oracle-l has changed >Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 04:39:17 -0800 > > >Here's a perfect example of an email that should >never have been sent. > >Sigh... I'll learn one of these days. > >This does not characterize the people I work for, >as they're a pretty good bunch and actually do >understand technology. > >It's more of a generalized rant fueled by past >experiences. > >Should have hit 'delete' on this one instead of 'send'. > >Jared > >On Sun, 2003-08-24 at 11:19, Jared Still wrote: > > Mladen, > > > > My version of the explanation of this goes back to childhood. > > > > When you were in school, just which crowd were those execs in? > > > > The 'in' crowd, the jocks, the party hounds. > > > > If like me, you were one of the 'eggheads', you didn't fit > > in so well with their clique, and maybe you still don't. > > > > When in school, I was told I would be more popular if I > > "wasn't so smart". I was even told that once as an adult. > > > > After pondering that for a bit, I decided they could all > > bite the green weenie if they didn't like it. > > > > This is probably how I earned my Hawkeye Pierce like cynicism, > > which I do work hard at keeping in check, lest it cause me > > more problems with the former 'in' folk that I now work for. > > > > 'They' don't like it when people are smarter than they are, > > and understand things they don't understand, and can't hope > > to understand. > > > > Hmm, this is getting a but cynical, so I guess I'll stop > > before I provide too much fodder for an HR type that has > > finally learned how to use google. > > > > Jared > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 2003-08-23 at 17:19, Mladen Gogala wrote: > > > > > > On 2003.08.23 18:34, Tim Gorman wrote: > > > > > > > Six years ago, a CIO commented to me, waving down a corridor which >had > > > > offices full of developers, "If I had my way, I'd get rid of all of >them and > > > > replace them with lawyers. We'd buy applications instead of >building them > > > > and then sue the vendors." My response was something along the >lines of "if > > > > you think developers are expensive, go price some lawyers", but it >certainly > > > > bounced off him. At the time, I took it as just another colorful >comment > > > > from a colorful guy. But he was dead serious, along with his >CIO/CFO > > > > brethren, and the passing of Y2K and the dot-com bubble pop has >expedited > > > > his prediction... > > > > > > I always wondered where does this prejudice against us, computer geeks >(my > > > apologies to anyone offended by that expression, but I'm a hard core >computer > > > geek) comes from? I must say that this prejudice is very hard to >understand. > > > IT people are very well educated, very hard working, regularly willing >to > > > work long hours and sacrifice their weekends for the benefit of the >company. > > > I found that very same attitude against the "darned geeks" at several > > > executives and managers of several companies I worked for. Even if >lawyers > > > are much more expensive the programmers, system and database >administrators, > > > application designers, they are still very willing to make the switch. > > > I'm not quite sure why are we so hated? Why would anyone want to kill > > > a nice and seet little wabbit? > > > > > > -- > > > Mladen Gogala > > > Oracle DBA > > > -- > > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > > > -- > > > Author: Mladen Gogala > > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > > > San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > > > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > > > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > > > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). 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