Vivek,
 
The origianl poster inquired on Physical Standby (in 8i and 9i) as opposed to logical standby (only in 9i).
 
In physical standby, you don't have a choice of running the standby in noarchivelog mode. The control file is created from the primary as "standby controlfile" which is then implanted at the standby site. Therefore the LOGMODE is V$DATABASE is always ARCHIVELOG and the CONTROLFILE_TYPE is always "STANDBY".
 
I guess you are confused on the potential issue - when the logmode is archivelog, whether the standby generates archived log files. No, the standby does not generate archived logs since it does not excute transactions; it just applies the logs shipped from the primary. When you activate the standby to make it the primary, however, the archived logs are generated.
 
Hope this clears any confusion. Do let us know if you have more questions on this.
 
Arup Nanda
www.proligence.com
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 3:09 AM
Subject: RE: Oracle Standby Database Backups.

Arup,Indy, List

 

Some Clarifications please

 

If the Primary Database is in ARCHIVELOG Mode (Physical Standby) & archived files there from are being shipped & applied to the Standby Database, What is the need to run the Standby Database in ARCHIVELOG Mode?

 

Are you implying 9i Dataguard with a Standby which works on a mechanism Other than Log-shipping?

 

Please give detail

 

Thanks

 

 

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Arup Nanda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:
Thursday, September 04, 2003 12:35 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject: Re: Oracle Standby Database Backups.

 

Tom,

 

You should perform backups from the Standby database, regular RMAN backups, no need to shutdown the database. Make sure you backup the archived log files from there too. Contrary to what the docs might _imply_, I use the word "imply" rather than "state", since the docs have been kind of ambiguous, the archivedlog backups from the standby are perfectly alright to be used for recoveries..

 

You could use the RMAN backup on the primary, but why? You would rather want to offload the CPU cycles for RMAN to the standby database. In case of a failure in the primary, your first option is to get the files from standby and recover them. If standby is down too (as in case of a complete disaster), you would reinstate the standby backup files to primary and you will be ok.

 

We are using it to backup out 7 TB OLTP database.

 

HTH.

 

Arup

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 2:29 PM

Subject: Oracle Standby Database Backups.

 

All,


We are in the beginning stages of designing a database with Oracle Standby capability.  The initial size of the database will be 600-800 Gig.  The proposed database will be run on a IBM P690 with a mirrored fail-over machine.  Two separate machines with separate disk.  We are considering using Oracle Standby to have the database available as much as possible.

 

Do I need to perform regular backups of the Standby database?  Sounds like a silly question, but how do I do this?  Using Rman?  Or do I shut it down and perform a cold backup?  I will definitely use Rman on the primary database.  Just curious what you all would suggest.

 

Thanks in advance!

Tom Mercadante
Oracle Certified Professional

 

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