Nancy
   I would second Mladen's recommendation that you review Princeton Softech.
   Another consideration that I didn't see anyone mention is that most
people discussed data archiving on a table-by-table basis. But Oracle is a
RELATIONAL database and it rarely does any good to just archive a few
isolated tables. That was one aspect of Softech that impressed me was how
well it handled the requirement to archive related sets of data.

Dennis Williams
DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
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Partitioning in itself is not a complete solution, because it doesn't keep
track
of changes. You may also want to try Princeton Softech, which has a great
product
that archives things directly to CD juke box and keeps track of what is
where and changes
needed in order to get it back online, if necessary. The URL is:

http://www.princetonsoftech.com

They have some great products there. While I was working for Oxford, I
worked with
their product caled "Move For Servers" which creates logically conistent
subsets (it
follows RI). I was very impressed with the product as well as with the
quality of the
support staff. Those guys are good, especially Kevin Hamson.

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of Nancy Hu
> Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 4:30 PM
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> Subject: RE: archive old data
> 
> 
> I really appreciate all replies.  Those solutions are very 
> good.  I think 
> partition works for our case.
> 
> Nancy
> 
> 
> >From: "Stephane Faroult" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: RE: archive old data
> >Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 09:34:25 -0800
> >
> >In an ideal world, tables are partitioned and you just have 
> to archive
> >partitions - either to other tables in an ARCHIVE schema, or 
> by exporting 
> >them - and then you can truncate them (=partitions). In the 
> real world, you 
> >always have some rows at a very old date which are *not* in 
> the CLOSED 
> >state. Which means that partitioning on a state with row 
> movement enabled 
> >is not necessarily to be frowned upon.
> >If you don't have enormous amounts of data, CREATE TABLE AS 
> SELECT to save 
> >the data to archive somewhere. Rather than deleting the rows 
> afterwards, 
> >it's probably better to do a CREATE TABLE AS SELECT 
> elsewhere with the rows 
> >you want to keep, then TRUNCATE the table, then reinsert the 
> rows back - it 
> >will have the advantage of reorganizing and resetting the 
> high-water mark. 
> >Of course you will have to juggle with constraints and triggers.
> >
> >If you feel lazy, just convince your management that since 
> disk space 
> >is so
> >cheap nowadays they can keep everything online.
> >
> >HTH
> >
> >SF
> >
> > >----- ------- Original Message ------- -----
> > >From: "Nancy Hu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Sent: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 08:49:31
> > >
> > >We have some tables that have data for many years.
> > >We are going to archive
> > >the data that are older than 3 years.      I would like
> > >to find out how you guys
> > >usually do this or a best way to do this.  Thanks
> > >for any inputs in advance.
> > >
> > >Nancy
> > >
> > >
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