But you still need to do a cold copy of the database files, right?

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>Your belief was wrong.

Actually, the belief was correct for some versions of oracle and some platforms.  Case 
in point was
Oracle 7 on an HP server.  The source must be down in order to bring up the clone and 
recreate the
control file.

Ron Thomas
Hypercom, Inc
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"Smith, Ron L." wrote:
>
> Whenever we clone a database on the same server we have always had the
> understanding that the original database must be down until the new
> database is renamed by running the control file script.
>
> I am going through the Oracle Recovery 101 book in an effort to
> understand RMAN and one chapters in the book is cloning a database on
> the same server.  I just went through the steps to create a clone of a
> hot database.  I created the new database on the same server with a new
> name while the original database was up and running.  I had no problems.
> Was our belief that the original database had to be down, incorrect, or
> was this just a restriction of older version like 7.3.4?
>
> Thanks!
> Ron Smith

Ron,

   When you clone a database, you start with :
1) changing db_name in the init.ora file and most paths
2) defining a new ORACLE_SID and renaming init.ora accordingly
3) starting the instance without mounting it - your init.ora file is
opened and read.

 Where do you want anything to interact (badly) with an existing
database?
You have allocated some shared memory, have started a few processes and
read a file. Big deal.

Your belief was wrong.

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Stephane Faroult
Oriole Software
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