Raj - There is some melding of DW and OLTP environments at some sites today.
Most DW's are separate environments with data extracted from the OLTP on a
regular batch schedule. But it is possible to have a combined environment
that satisfies both requirements, especially if you are starting from
scratch and not trying to add DW to an existing system. If your users
require "real-time" DW queries, this may be a better alternative.
     The biggest problem I've heard is the Oracle buffer cache. After it has
been running awhile the OLTP buffers will tend to hold the hot blocks. By
definition, a DW doesn't have hot blocks, so if both OLTP and DW share the
same instance, the DW will tend to mess up the buffer cache for OLTP, so
OLTP performance will suffer. Of course, a combination schema design may
satisfy nobody, but we DBAs are used to dealing with unhappy people.



Dennis Williams 
DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA 
Lifetouch, Inc. 
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Thanks Dennis ... 

We have "a" group who design their application as if this is a DW
environment, so I thought learning this stuff might be beneficial for "me".

I'll check it out. 
Raj 
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Raj - Actually a good place to start is the Oracle9i Data Warehousing Guide 
http://download-west.oracle.com/docs/cd/B10501_01/server.920/a96520/logical
<http://download-west.oracle.com/docs/cd/B10501_01/server.920/a96520/logical
> . 
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http://download-west.oracle.com/docs/cd/B10501_01/server.920/a96520/logical
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.htm#97703> 
I think it is important for all Oracle DBAs to understand the fundamental 
concepts behind DW. You never know when you'll get yanked into a meeting 
where they are discussing it and you don't want to say something Neanderthal

like "of course we'll fully normalize the schema". Ralph Kimball has some 
good materials on his web site: http://www.ralphkimball.com
<http://www.ralphkimball.com>  
< http://www.ralphkimball.com <http://www.ralphkimball.com> >  

Dennis Williams 

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