Nope.  Mr Freeman are you out there??

Also, Jonathan Lewis is a commentary author for this book, so he may some insight.

But wait, I have some dice at my desk...bingo...it's 8 percent faster.  You can quote 
me.

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did he mention any benchmarked performance improvements from gathering statistics on 
the system tablespacE? 
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> From: "Grabowy, Chris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2003/10/07 Tue PM 03:34:25 EDT
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> At the recent NYOUG conference, they were handing out special preview copies of 
> Oracle 10g New Features by our very own Robert Freeman....
>  
> Page 11 has a section entitled...Collecting Data Dictionary Statistics...this is 
> done using the DBMS_STATS.GATHER_DICTIONARY_STATS procedure.
>  
> Does that answer your question Patrice?
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> We had issues here with first_rows and all_rows when set in init.ora for 8i a couple 
> of years ago... performance dropped significantly.    During discussions with Oracle 
> Support I learned that the data dictionary for 8i has to run in rule mode, I don't 
> know if they changed that in 9i or 10G.
>  
> Hopefully... 10G still has a data dictionary I imagine.
>  
> : )
>  
> Patrice.
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> 10g it won't be supported... wander when rule hints won't be used in E-Business 
> Suite... 11.5.8 still has rule hints in some of the code.
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> OK, dumb question.  Does this mean the rule hint won't be possible? 
> Application I support mostly uses CBO but there have been cases where we had to 
> resort to RBO hint.  'course it'll be some time before we can consider v10... 
> 
> Kip 
> 
> |Hi Jared, 
> 
> |haven't seen it, too. But the fact 
> |was spreaded over the newsgroups. 
> 
> |We still have some 3rd party apps that don't use 
> |*any* feature above Oracle 7 (well, almost). Queries with 
> |the RULE hint where it's not necessary. 
> |But if we change a thing, support will be lost. 
> |So we decided to rewrite the whole app. 
> |Lucky me: enough work for the next years. 
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> |Greetings, 
> |Guido 
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