Arup,

Thanks for the info.  Can you elaborate a little on your understanding
of how a client would connect their own reporting tool _directly_ to
our database?  

Paul

--- Arup Nanda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Paul,
> 
> We use Advanced Security. the product is pricey and difficult to
> setup; but
> once in place it's in solid footing.
> 
> Advanced security does not replace VPN per se; it's purpose is
> slightly
> different and broader in scope. If you take VPN away, how do you
> suppose you
> will connect to the DB server, directly? Hardly. So, VPN _may_ be
> required
> regardless.
> 
> Some of the uses of AS are (not exhaustive)
> 
> 1. Encryption and Checksumming of Net8 connection between the db
> server and
> the app servers (and any other users connected to the db server
> directly).
> This is the bare minimum security manadated by HIPAA and
> unfortunately
> Oracle does not provide a solution as a part of the base product. You
> may
> not need it, though; since using intelligent subnets and using
> firewalls
> around the db servers can limit threats to an acceptable degree.
> 
> 2. Single signon. We use it in our app servers (running IIS) where
> the
> authentication is done using certificates. Again, this is necessary
> due to
> the refusal of the Development group to introduce database userids
> and
> eliminate the application authentication.
> 
> The second part can be addressed in a different way. Using an
> application
> user security model where the users supply their userid and password
> to the
> database for authentication will eliminate the need to have a Windows
> user
> to be authenticated. A simple mechanism will be to authenticate the
> user
> agaist the database as the very first step. If authentication fails,
> the app
> will not proceed further. This will eliminate the authentication of
> the user
> by Windows. This model has been in use on a different app here and
> works
> great; but on the other app, the manager insists on one
> authentication on
> Windows and then another on the database, hence single signon.
> 
> HTH.
> 
> Arup Nanda
> www.proligence.com
> 
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> 
> > Thanks, everyone, for your helpful responses.
> >
> > A talk with our Oracle sales droid has pointed me in the direction
> of
> > Oracle Advanced Security for authentication, encryption, and
> integrity.
> >  Anyone have experience using this?  We are considering using
> Entrust
> > SSL authentication as we already use Entrust to authenticate users
> of
> > our app.  Would Advanced Security replace a VPN, or coexist with
> it?
> >
> >
> >
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