Hi,

You DO NOT have to CLONE the databases if you are upgrading the OS from 4.3.3 to 5L.  
You mentioned that the instances are already running.

IBM has break the technology at AIX 5.1.0.0, meaning the AIX 4.3.3 and AIX 5.1.0.0 
have different architecture.  So if you are upgrading IBM AIX 4.3.3 to AIX 5.1.0.0, 
you also have to upgrade Oracle at the same time.  Oracle 9.2 CDs are separate for IBM 
AIX 4.3.3 and IBM AIX 5.1.0.0.

If you are in this situation, all you have to is shutdown all databases, install 
Oracle 9.2 with 5L CDs in new ORACEL HOME and setup your environment with new ORACLE 
HOME to start your existing databases.

Muqthar Ahmed


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SQL> @cr_spap
SQL> STARTUP NOMOUNT
pfile=/iu33/u01/app/oracle/admin/spap/pfile/initspap.ora
ORA-03113: end-of-file on communication channel
SQL> CREATE CONTROLFILE REUSE DATABASE "SPAP" RESETLOGS NOARCHIVELOG
2 MAXLOGFILES 50
3 MAXLOGMEMBERS 5
4 MAXDATAFILES 100
5 MAXINSTANCES 1
6 MAXLOGHISTORY 226
7 LOGFILE
8 GROUP 1 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/redo01.log' SIZE 100M,
9 GROUP 2 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/redo02.log' SIZE 100M,
10 GROUP 3 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/redo03.log' SIZE 100M
11 DATAFILE
12 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/system01.dbf',
13 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/undotbs01.dbf',
14 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/drsys01.dbf',
15 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/example01.dbf',
16 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/odm01.dbf',
17 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/tools01.dbf',
18 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/users01.dbf',
19 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/xdb01.dbf',
20 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/users02.dbf',
21 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/users03.dbf',
22 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/users04.dbf',
23 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/users05.dbf',
24 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/indexes01.dbf',
25 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/indexes02.dbf',
26 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/indexes03.dbf'
27 CHARACTER SET WE8ISO8859P1
28 ;
CREATE CONTROLFILE REUSE DATABASE "SPAP" RESETLOGS NOARCHIVELOG
*
ERROR at line 1:
ORA-03114: not connected to ORACLE
SQL> -- RECOVER DATABASE
SQL> -- ALTER DATABASE OPEN;
SQL> -- ALTER TABLESPACE TEMP ADD TEMPFILE
'/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/temp01.dbf'
SIZE 3119M REUSE AUTOEXTEND ON NEXT 655360 MAXSIZE ;
SQL>

The confusing thing is that I have instances already running on the machine.
So I know the install is ok.  I can start/shutdown the existing instances no
problem.  But when I try to clone and startup --- I get the results from
above.
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When are you getting the error?  During startup?

Adam




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Sorry,
AIX 5L to AIX 5L
cold backup copies
create backup controlfile to trace -- edited for the new file locations
keeping the SID the same

created init.ora from spfile
startup nomount pfile=<init.ora>
getting  ora-3113

I have a TAR opened and figured I would check out here as well.



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How about some more details?  Are you cloning to a similar platform?  Are
you using a cold backup with controlfile recreation?  RMAN backup or
restore?  RMAN duplicate?  ...

Adam




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Just checking to see if anyone has been able to clone a 9.2 DB from one
machine to another.  I have never had a problem doing this prior to 9.2,
and am just wondering if I have overlooked something peculiar to 9i.
Thanks in adavance
John

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