Thanks for the input, John.  I am primarily concerned about I/O overhead, but I guess that depends on the level of auditing selected, number of concurrent users, which apps they are logged into, time of the month, etc.etc...

Vicki Pierce
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For all the non-APPS DBAs out there...

Oracle Applications 10.4 onwards (lowest version I have seen) provides for a
feature called 'Signon Auditing'. This is NOT Oracle's Auditing (which goes
into SYS.AUD$). It is a parameter driven auditing that records all Users
that logged in when set to USER, Application Responsibilities that they
chose (upon login as well as subsequently switched to) when set to
RESPONSIBILITY, in addition to recording the USER level, and the Forms that
they chose to run when set to FORMS, in addition to that recorded at
RESPONSIBILITY and USER levels. Thus, when set to FORMS, a user login would
at best produce a minimum of three rows, etc. These rows are updated when
the user logged out, so all sorts of reports about who is/was logged on,
forms currently being used, etc. can be determined. In fact, for an Apps DBA
to tie back a session to an actual user, at least USER level signon auditing
should be turned on. The problem with Apps is that all users would login in
the APPS schema using the encrypted password which is  obtained using a
dummy connection... Forms and further Access is then determined by
'Responsbilities' that are in turn tied to 'Organizations' and 'Datasets'.
By default, almost all Applications tables record the last updated user and
timestamp, so there is some inbuilt auditing, albeit not a trail. Oracle
provides an additional Audit function that performs an audit trail for such
datasets, and this can produce significant overhead for data storage.

Thus.... all discussions about SYS.AUD$ are not really relevant in this
particular thread, although some good ideas have been aired. Switching on
Auditing without understanding what is ultimately required would be very
counterproductive, whether this is on an APPS database or not, in any case.

[As an aside, most of this is enabled via the AOL - Applications Object
Layer (aka FND - Foundation Layer) and is a solid example of providing
'Application' infrastructure. And don't get me started on the Concurrent
Processing - that's an excellent one too]

I am going to stop now and let Apps gurus such as Andy R, Tanel and Tim G
comment.

John Kanagaraj
Oracle Applications DBA
DB Soft Inc
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>From: Mladen Gogala [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>Subject: Re: Overhead Associated with Signon Audit in Financials 11.0
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>It is true, auditing adds significant overhead, but not
>session auditing.
>Significant overhead is added by DML auditing because you ad
>significant
>amount of modified blocks to every transaction you audit, you
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