Rick, In a perfect world, we would be tracking major changes to the database (even updates) by time.
In your case, you are stuck with taking a WAG, or more better, and educated WAG. You said that you think you dropped the table at about 1700. You can choose a point-in-time recovery to be 1630, to be safe. When you open the database, if the table is there, then you are done. If not, do it again. Good Luck! Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional -----Original Message----- Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 10:44 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L How was the timestamp derived prior to logminer as Point-In-Time recovery has been around a long time? Thanks Rick "Scott Canaan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Point-In-Time recovery question, Non-RMAN solution .com 11/06/2003 10:09 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L Have you looked into using logminer? Even if it can't restore your table, it can give you the exact time that it was dropped. Scott Canaan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (585) 475-7886 "Life is like a sewer, what you get out of it depends on what you put into it." - Tom Lehrer. -----Original Message----- Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 8:45 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi DBAs, Oracle 8i, ArchiveLog, No RMAN Testing Point-In-Time Recovery I am confused on what time to substitute in the RECOVER DATABASE UNTIL TIME 'timestamp'; For example 2 days ago 11/04/2003 approximately 17:00 I drop a table. Today I decide I want that table back. I want to do an incomplete recovery to get the table back. How do I know what timestamp to use? I have an idea the I dropped the table but not exact. 1. SHUTDOWN Normal 2. BACKUP current database 3. Restore datafile that has the table in it. 4. connect internal 5. startup mount 6. recover database until time 'timestamp??????'; 7. Alter database open resetlogs; 8. BACKUP current database Step 5 is my confusion. Also I assume all data is now lost since last archive restored to the present. The only way I know to get that data back is to 1. Export the table that was dropped. 2. Restore database from step2 3. Import table from step1 Is there better ways. Thanks Rick -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services --------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Scott Canaan INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services --------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services --------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Mercadante, Thomas F INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services --------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).