While I agree that the older machines and 3GL technologies *ran* faster, it took 8 times longer to develop a simple report. a thousand lines of cobol code to produce a simple list. and wait for a change request. another week to figure out what the other programmer did, make a minor change, test it and return it to the user. all the while, they are scratching their head saying "what the frig is taking so long?".
No way. we are in a much better position now. Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional -----Original Message----- Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 2:24 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L OH, ANCIENT History!! Dick Goulet Senior Oracle DBA Oracle Certified 8i DBA -----Original Message----- Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 2:09 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Nope, we would be using IMS and/or CICS & DL/I. On the beginning of my career, when I was a junior programmer using completely outdated, badly overused language (COBOL, for short) an ancient IBM 3084 with only 32M RAM was able to service 800+ users, as long as there weren't too many TSO users. I'd hate to explain what CICS, MVS and TSO are (or were), but those things were way more optimal and way faster then any other database I've ever seen, and that was happenening in the year 1986. At the end of 1986, I was reassigned to check out that wonderful new box with OS that has held so much promise....VAX 3900 with VMS 4.6. Does anybody still remember the NULL.COM and NULL process? On 11/07/2003 01:44:35 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > yes, but as you all know by now ( or should know ), having the best > technology does not make you a market leader. > > MySQL will walk all over PostgreSQL, regardless of the superiority of the > latter. > > Otherwise, we would all be using RDB, wouldn't we? > > Jared > > > > > > "Jesse, Rich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 11/07/2003 06:45 AM > Please respond to ORACLE-L > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > cc: > Subject: RE: Uncle Larry, wake up!!! > > > Let's not forget PostgreSQL, arguably more "enterprise-ready" than MySQL, > and now with clustering on Linux: > > http://www.open-mag.com/0182533982.shtml > > Rich > > Rich Jesse System/Database Administrator > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech Inc, Sussex, WI USA > > > -----Original Message----- > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 8:04 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > Can I say "I told you so!" now? ;) > > > > > > "Goulet, Dick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 11/06/2003 02:59 PM > Please respond to ORACLE-L > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > cc: > Subject: Uncle Larry, wake up!!! > > > > The last statements in the article are really telling: > > Yet, despite MySQL's progress in the market, "we haven't > found very much MySQL out there," says Microsoft's Rizzo. > > "That's the best news I could have," retorts Mickos, MYSql > AB. "As long as Microsoft is in denial, we're fine." > > Could we add Uncle Larry to the list of those in denial?? > > MYSQL BREAKS INTO THE DATA CENTER > > MySQL is changing the nature of the database market with a powerful > combination of low cost and high performance. > http://www.computerworld.com/databasetopics/data/software/story/0,10801,8590 > 0,00.html > > Click on the link or copy and paste it into your browser > to view the story forwarded to you from Computerworld.com. > > > Dick Goulet > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > -- > Author: Jesse, Rich > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). 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