Jonathan Lewis has found out that even 8i has flashback capabilities internally http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk/ch_01.html
Btw, in 10g there is a "guaranteed retention" option as well, that undo_retention time is forced instead of attempted. Tanel. ----- Original Message ----- To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 8:39 PM > Actually, flashback is available regardless of the undo management > configuration. Flashback requires use of the smon_scn_time table, which > is populated with an scn -> time relationship every five minutes the > instance is up. The table is restricted to a certain size (14400 entries > IIRC) by the update logic, so the 5 days of flashback time is a result of > the old records being 'aged' off the table. > > Using AUM increases the likelihood that a flashback query will succeed, > but it is not a guarantee. The logic of block reuse in AUM should > increase the retention of undo. > > Daniel Fink > > Melanie Caffrey wrote: > > > Yes, this is correct. > > > > Rollback segments cannot be used. > > > > --- Stephen Andert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > Bambi, > > > > > > Are you using automatic undo management or manual? > > > I think that > > > flashback can only be used with auto. > > > > > > Stephen > > > > > > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/06/03 10:04AM >>> > > > Hi Folks! > > > > > > I got waylaid(?) when I got in this morning and > > > these user dudes were > > > talking about using flashbacks, and I was like > > > "Woah! Dudes! Let's > > > just > > > chill on this for a couple of minutes". So, I went > > > back to my desk > > > and > > > checked out a cool article on it... > > > > > > > > http://www.oracle-base.com/Articles/9i/FlashbackQuery.asp > > > > > > > > > And it looks like it's like, killer, yknow? So, I > > > was thinking "well, > > > we've > > > got sufficiently large undo segments for this, I > > > don't see a problem > > > with > > > it" but that didn't sound terribly cool, and anyway, > > > before I go > > > willy-nilly > > > saying this is the niftiest thing Oracle's done in > > > years, I thought I > > > would > > > run it by you guys and see if anybody out there is > > > running with > > > flashbacks > > > and whether there have been any problems with it. > > > > > > Yer far-out pal, > > > Bambi. > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: > > > http://www.orafaq.net > > > -- > > > Author: Bellow, Bambi > > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 > > > http://www.fatcity.com > > > San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web > > > hosting services > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an > > > E-Mail message > > > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of > > > 'ListGuru') and in > > > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB > > > ORACLE-L > > > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed > > > from). 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