Daniel, How does using the TRUNCATE command is a sqlldr invalidate anything? The sqlldr truncate command reuses the storage that the table originally used and does not change the HW mark. If there are indexes on the tables then they are placed in the "DIRECT PATH" state during the load and updated with the now block info. Please explain whet you mean by "invalidate". Ron
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/12/2003 12:04:35 PM >>> Jonathan, I don't see where truncate is being invoked, though I am not a big user of sql*loader. Truncate should invalidate statements. Daniel Jonathan Gennick wrote: > I wonder whether the invalidation comes about from the use > of TRUNCATE, which is considered a DDL statement. I'd guess > that any DDL to a table would invalidate existing SQL > statements. > > Best regards, > > Jonathan Gennick --- Brighten the corner where you are > http://Gennick.com * 906.387.1698 * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Join the Oracle-article list and receive one > article on Oracle technologies per month by > email. To join, visit http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/oracle-article, > or send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and > include the word "subscribe" in either the subject or body. > > Wednesday, November 12, 2003, 8:34:24 AM, Jonathan Gennick ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > JG> I don't usually forward my reader email to the list, but the > JG> question below strikes me as rather interesting. In this > JG> case, SQL*Loader appears to be causing all SQL statements > JG> that refer to the table being loaded to be invalidated. Is > JG> this normal behavior? Does anyone know why it might be the > JG> case? > > JG> -- > JG> Best regards, > > JG> Jonathan Gennick --- Brighten the corner where you are > JG> http://Gennick.com * 906.387.1698 * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > JG> Join the Oracle-article list and receive one > JG> article on Oracle technologies per month by > JG> email. To join, visit http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/oracle-article, > JG> or send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and > JG> include the word "subscribe" in either the subject or body. > > JG> Wednesday, November 12, 2003, 1:07:41 AM, > JG> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > JG> Hi Jonathan, > > JG> I was unable to find the answers from your book "SQL*Loader: The Definitive Guide" and the web. I am running out of sources. I hope you can help me with the following questions. > > JG> We are using Oracle 9i sqlldr, direct path to load data from external files into > JG> staging tables. After data is loaded, we invoked stored procedures to > JG> transform data and move them to the target tables. The steps are: > JG> 1. delete all entries from 20 staging tables > JG> 2. invoke "sqlldr userid=dbimpl/dbimpl control=<controlFile> direct=true" to > JG> load data to all 20 staging tables > JG> 3. invoke stored procedures to transform data from the staging tables to the > JG> final tables. Currently these stored procedures are standalone. > JG> 4. invoke stored procedures to remove out-of-date entries from the final > JG> tables. > > JG> I monitor invalidations column in v$sqlarea. Every time > JG> after sqlldr is invoked for data loading (step 2), all the > JG> sql statements that reference the staging tables are > JG> invalidated, including "delete from <stageing_table>" sql > JG> statement. I setup a test and used a java program to loop > JG> steps 1-4 every ~2 minutes. There were no other activities > JG> in the database except data loading and transformation. > JG> After a couple days, I got the following error: ORA-04031: > JG> unable to allocate 4212 bytes of shared memory ("shared > JG> pool","unknown object","sga heap(1,0)","stat array mem") > > JG> The questions are: > JG> 1. Do we need to delete entries in the staging table prior to loading. Will > JG> sqlldr remove the entires in the staging table first prior to loading? > JG> 2. There are no changes in the stored procedures, how / why sqlldr would > JG> invalidate the sql statement in the stored procedures? > JG> 3. The error ORA-04031 in this case, is it due to shared memory fragmentation? I suspect that the culprint is invalidations. How do invalidations cause shared memory fragmentation? > > JG> I would appreciate if you can send me some pointers or suggestions. > > JG> Thanks, > JG> KamYee > > JG> -- > JG> Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > -- > Author: Jonathan Gennick > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). 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