On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Mladen Gogala wrote:

And more below:

> See below:
> 
> On 11/18/2003 11:44:25 AM, "Jesse, Rich" wrote:
> > Hey all,
> > 
> > Just dumped my primary Windohs desktop at work in favor of Gentoo (yay!),
> > and am installing O9iR2.  As I'm browsing thru the Install docs as I am want
> > to do prior to installs, I see that they recommend using:
> > 
> >     echo "somevalue" >/proc/sys/kernel/someparm
> > 
> > ...in the startup to set kernel values.  Anyone know why Oracle wouldn't
> > recommend just populating /etc/sysctl.conf (or /etc/sysconfig/* or whatever
> > is available for your flavor of Linux).
> 
> This is exactly where the problem is: Things do not work the same way in SuSE, RH
> and Debian and probably not in Gentoo, either. The "echo" stuff works on any 
> distribution, which is probably why oracle keeps recommending it.
> I looked at Gento and it looks good.It is, however, mostly manual installation. 
> One should first configure ethernet  adapter using "dhcpd eth0", fix nameservers 
> using "nano" 
> (why not "vi"?) ,then  fix disks using "fdisk", "mkfs"  and "mount", activate swap, 
> untar the
> tarball and then, finally, use emerge. I must say that it is more work then I like. 
> I'm on RH-9, 
> so I'm  golden until 4/30/2004. I'll wait and see what will SuSE, Ximian & Novell do 
> untill 
> then. Also, Fedora might  be a thing to try. After all, it is on the bleeding edge. 
> Still, there
> isn't any software for the darned thing. No XMMS, no pan, no gaim or any other 
> productivity tools.

XMMS is still there, just no mp3 support. My preference is OGG anyways, no patent 
worries there. Haven't ever used pan, but it's installed on the Fedora install I have 
here. As for 'other productivity tools', doesn't OpenOffice count as a 'productivity 
tool'? Gaim seems to work fine as well. If you ask me there's plenty of software for 
it, and there will only be more as time goes on.

> Even Limewire doesn't work.

Never used Limewire, so I can't comment there.

> Finally, RH might change its mind because I believe that the recent move has made 
> plenty
> of room for Novell, and that might lead to the ultimate demise of RH. They might try 
> winning 
> the hearts of CIOs but the path to cIOs leads through the hearts of us, home users. 
> And boy,
> are we pissed off now or what?
> 

Not at all.

I personally see the move to Fedora to be a Good Thing(tm) for RedHat's breed of 
Linux. They've opened up the development process for their distro substantially and as 
I wear both a SA and a DBA hat where I work, I look forward to using Fedora on my 
servers, with the new flexibility of more community involvement. If, in the corporate 
environment, you need support for the OS, then by all means, use RedHat's 
enterprise-level distributions. Support for them will still be there.

As for support for the regular Joe like you and me, there is a wealth of support 
available via RedHat's mailing lists, bugzilla, usenet, etc. As it stands, that's 
always been sufficient for me.

My take on all of this is that too many people haven't taken the time to really read 
through the docs as to what Fedora is all about, but have simply been passing along 
hearsay.

> 
> 
>   I used this on the RH installs I've
> > done, and it works well.  The echo method is a hack that just doesn't seem
> > to be good practice to me.
> > 
> > Just wondering...
> > 
> > Rich
> > 
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> Mladen Gogala
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