And I thought that all "old" people knew cobol .... ;-)

I'll try to think of a solution that does involve creating many tables per redefine 
statement.


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Jared Still
Sent: 27 novembre, 2003 15:09
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Carel-Jan,

Well, go ahead and spoil all our fun.  ;)

Seriously though, thanks for posting which part of the fine
manual to peruse.  If I *knew* COBOL, perhaps I could offer
something useful rather than just whining.

Now if anyone needs to move from Data-Flex to Oracle, I
can offer some ideas.

Jared

On Thu, 2003-11-27 at 11:44, Carel-Jan wrote:
> At 05:44 27-11-03 -0800, you wrote:
> >I'm looking for a solution that is using only one table not multiple tables.
> >In fact a dynamic column redefinition feature (cobol redefines) is what I 
> >need in Oracle SQL.
> >
> >Stephane
> 
> Hi Stephane,
> 
> Instead of flaming Cobol I'll try help you with a solution. Please download 
> the utilities manual, as I advised last time, look at the SQL*Loader part 
> and take case study 5. It will tell you exactly what you want. Redefines, 
> Occurs, all is covered. I think this will solve your problem. You can have 
> as many INTO TABLE clauses as you like, one for each redefine. Every INTO 
> TABLE might refer to the same table. The WHEN clause helps you to determine 
> what INTO TABLE clause to use.
> 
> 
> To the others in this thread, IMHO Cobol might not be state of the art, 
> whithout it IT might not have been what it is now. I hate the language, 
> actually never ever wrote a working program in it due to some mental blocks 
> connected with the syntax, but I've done many data-conversions of files, 
> based on the record-layouts. Redefines might be ugly, for those of you who 
> do not remember the amazing discovery of a 5 MB (spelled MegaByte) 
> harddisk, and spending 3 hours discussing with 4 programmers how to use 
> this amazing amount of diskspace in a usefull way some hsitorical awareness 
> might help. Cobol, coming from the early sixties AFAIK, doesn't support 
> null-values. Actually, when they started using it, there were no disks at 
> all. Costs of storage were sky-high, and every byte saved was welcome. So, 
> redefines, and repeating groups (OCCURS 10 TIMES in a field definition) 
> really helped people writing usefull programs, based on serial access to 
> data stored on ticker tapes and magnetic tapes. It is about time to get 
> some awareness of the history of our trade, before it all fades away.
> 
> Visit Miracle's Oracle museum, running Oracle V5 on a 286 / Dos 6.0 system, 
> or similar old-fashioned. Do you condemn the T-Ford as well? That doesn't 
> meet today's standards, but was most important to the development of a 
> certain country in this world.
> 
> 
> Regards, Carel-Jan
> 
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