I agree, but still you have load data, analyze tables, check explain plan that this is what you actually wanted and store outline.
rw > Correct. The point is that stored outlines can be viewed as > a tool for > those who like the "predictability" of the RBO. When the RBO is no > longer available, the best way I know of to force the CBO to use your > plan is stored outlines. > > Gudmundur > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf >> Of Wartiak Rastislav Sent: 2. desember 2003 09:39 >> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L >> Subject: RE: Plan stability >> >> >> AFAIK RBO cannot be used for partitioned tables, not talking >> about the fact that RBO might not be supported in future versions. >> >>> What is complicated about stored outlines? If you don't like those >>> you can always go back to the RBO. >>> >>> Gudmundur >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >>>> Behalf Of Wartiak Rastislav Sent: 2. desember 2003 08:44 >>>> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L >>>> Subject: Plan stability >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> my question is about the same, but more general. How can i force >>>> Oracle to use my prefered way of explain plan and not use CBO's. I >>>> mean, apart from stored outlines, it somehow seems to complicated. >>>> I would like to say what order and join types it should use. But, >>>> try as I might, I many times cannot force Oracle to use my way, >>>> even though I know it is possible, for I saw this kind of explain >>>> plan for that specific query.. >>>> >>>> I tried to use hints like ordered and use_hj etc. Can someone give >>>> some examples of full set of hints for some simple queries? >>>> >>>> Thx, >>>> rw >>>> >>>>> Hi, list friends: >>>>> We are using partition to archive history data in our >>>>> production OLTP database. We get great performance gains(Far less >>>>> disk io), but we also hit performance trouble sometimes. So I am >>>>> here ask for your experience. >>>>> >>>>> We used local index on all partitioned tables.We add/drop >>>>> partition monthly to archive the history data. >>>>> >>>>> But the trouble is, when add/drop partition is being done on >>>>> the partitioned table, CBO sometimes changed SQL execution path.We >>>>> implemented partition 2 monthes ago, and in the first time, >>>>> add/drop partition went on quite smoothly, but in the second time >>>>> we add/drop partition, two SQL (just TWO SQL) get bad execution >>>>> path and server load rushed to 10 times(from 2 to 20 in uptime), >>>>> all waiting for latch free event. It severely affected our >>>>> application. We are an online system and we do not have scheduled >>>>> time every month so we have to add/drop partition while db is >>>>> still running. >>>>> >>>>> So, with system still up and running, how do you add/drop >>>>> partition without changing the SQL execution path? We do not have >>>>> the time to reanalyze/dbms_stats the tables ,analyze takes hours >>>>> and if SQL execution path changed, during these time, system is >>>>> nearly unusable. >>>>> >>>>> I tried to import old >>>> statistics(dbms_stats.import_table_stats), >>>>> but did not fix the problem. >>>>> So, can you share your experience on managing partitioned >>>>> table? >>>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> >>>>> Zhu Chao >>>>> www.cnoug.org >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net >>>> -- >>>> Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- >>>> Author: Wartiak Rastislav INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> >>>> Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com >>> San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting >>> services >>> >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >>> to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >>> the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the >>> name of mailing list you want to be removed from). 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