Hi Robert, That's all very interesting.
The various press releases at the time (e.g. http://www.dulcian.com/PRESS%20RELEASE_OCM.htm) all suggest that the "6 best Oracle experts in the world" were handed these prestigious awards. Even the TUSC website only makes mention of these awards being handed to Mr Niemiec. If he indeed actually took and passed the practical exam in person, and if obtaining OCM status is as prestigious as the marketing makes it out to be, then I would recommend Mr Niemiec perhaps promote his "hands-on" involvement a little more (rather than the handed hands-off bit) as this I'm sure all comes as news to many. It's actually a very brave thing to have done when you think about it. It's a little bit like being given a brand new car as a present and saying "oh no no, I want to prove I can drive it first". It's all great if you pass the driving test but if you were to fail, boy, would you look silly holding those car keys ;) Did he have any such reservations ? Cheers Richard ----- Original Message ----- To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 8:29 AM > As I recall Rich talking about it, he did indeed take the exam. It was not > just "handed" to him. > > Robert > > > -----Original Message----- > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Sent: 12/11/2003 3:59 PM > > you mean niemic didnt actually have to take the test? It was just handed > to > him? who is jeremiah wilton? > ----- Original Message ----- > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 4:09 PM > > > > IIRC, Tanel did the OCM as well, but I suspect most of the others on > > your list aren't prepared to waste their time attending OCP exams and > > courses just so they can get the OCM. :) > > > > There were some honorary OCM's announced when the program first > started > > (OOW2002?). From memory, Rich Niemic and Jeremiah Wilton are the only > > names that spring to mind from that group. > > > > Pete > > > > "Controlling developers is like herding cats." > > > > Kevin Loney, Oracle DBA Handbook > > > > "Oh no, it's not. It's much harder than that!" > > > > Bruce Pihlamae, long-term Oracle DBA > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > Mladen Gogala > > Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 7:54 AM > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > I know only of Pete Sharman. Who are other Oracle Certified Masters on > > this group? I suspect Tanel to be one, as well as Steve Adams, Cary > > Millsap, > > Mogens Norgaard, Anjo Kolk, Wolfgang Breitling, Gaja V. and Kirti > > Deshpande. > > Am I correct? > > > > Mladen Gogala > > Oracle DBA > > -- > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > > -- > > Author: Mladen Gogala > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > > San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). 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