That's correct. I believe the reasoning is that the advanced courses (listed below) that are included have to include hands on. The Internals seminars are not hands on. As a couple of asides, Scott is not the only instructor who runs those internals seminars, and I'm not even sure if he's running them now as he's moved into Advanced Technology Solutions in Oracle Consulting.
The advanced courses listed in the OCM description fall into the following categories: Database Applications Advanced PL/SQL Oracle9i: Program with PL/SQL Oracle9i: Advanced PL/SQL Oracle9i: Implement Advanced Queuing Performance Management Oracle9i: SQL Tuning Workshop Oracle8i: SQL Statement Tuning Workshop Oracle9i Database: Advanced Instance Tuning Advanced Networking and Replication Oracle Net Services: Advanced Administration Oracle9i Database: Advanced Replication Oracle8i Distributed Systems Part 2: Advanced Replication Administering the Oracle Internet Directory Database and Data Management Oracle Enterprise Manager 9i Managing Oracle on Linux Oracle9i Database: Implementing Oracle Streams Advanced Oracle Security Oracle9i Database: Security High Availability Oracle 9i: Data Guard Administration Oracle8i: Parallel Server Implementation Oracle9i: Real Application Clusters Oracle9i Database: Advanced Backup and Recovery using RMAN Data Warehouse and Large Scale Databases Oracle9i: Data Warehouse Administration Oracle9i Database: Implement Partitioning Pete "Controlling developers is like herding cats." Kevin Loney, Oracle DBA Handbook "Oh no, it's not. It's much harder than that!" Bruce Pihlamae, long-term Oracle DBA -----Original Message----- Boivin, Patrice J Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 1:19 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L So we have to take two advanced Oracle courses... I have a bad feeling that the Oracle Internals Seminars by Scott Gossett don't count. Would that be correct? They are not part of the OCP tracks. Patrice. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Boivin, Patrice J INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services --------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Pete Sharman INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services --------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).