That's correct.  I believe the reasoning is that the advanced courses
(listed below) that are included have to include hands on.  The
Internals seminars are not hands on.  As a couple of asides, Scott is
not the only instructor who runs those internals seminars, and I'm not
even sure if he's running them now as he's moved into Advanced
Technology Solutions in Oracle Consulting.

The advanced courses listed in the OCM description fall into the
following categories:

Database Applications 
 
Advanced PL/SQL 
Oracle9i: Program with PL/SQL 
Oracle9i: Advanced PL/SQL 
Oracle9i: Implement Advanced Queuing 
 
Performance Management
 
Oracle9i: SQL Tuning Workshop 
Oracle8i: SQL Statement Tuning Workshop 
Oracle9i Database: Advanced Instance Tuning 
 
Advanced Networking and Replication 
 
Oracle Net Services: Advanced Administration 
Oracle9i Database: Advanced Replication 
Oracle8i Distributed Systems Part 2: Advanced Replication 
Administering the Oracle Internet Directory 
 
Database and Data Management 
 
Oracle Enterprise Manager 9i 
Managing Oracle on Linux 
Oracle9i Database: Implementing Oracle Streams 
 
Advanced Oracle Security 
 
Oracle9i Database: Security 
 
High Availability 
 
Oracle 9i: Data Guard Administration 
Oracle8i: Parallel Server Implementation 
Oracle9i: Real Application Clusters 
Oracle9i Database: Advanced Backup and Recovery using RMAN 
 
Data Warehouse and Large Scale Databases 
 
Oracle9i: Data Warehouse Administration 
Oracle9i Database: Implement Partitioning  

Pete

"Controlling developers is like herding cats."

Kevin Loney, Oracle DBA Handbook

"Oh no, it's not.  It's much harder than that!"

Bruce Pihlamae, long-term Oracle DBA


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Boivin, Patrice J
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So we have to take two advanced Oracle courses...  

I have a bad feeling that the Oracle Internals Seminars by Scott Gossett
don't count.

Would that be correct?  They are not part of the OCP tracks.

Patrice.
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