Perhaps I got it wrong, but, John - are you saying that the entries are part of the rollback, i.e. if the transaction that caused the audit trail entries to be created is rolled back, the audit trail enries are rolled back as well?
The auditing entry is NOT part of the transaction, it's created via an autonomous one and it stays in the audit trail table, regardless of what happens to the transaction. It will take a very simple test to prove this. Make sure that audit_trail is set to DB. create table atest1 (col1 number, col2 number, col3 number, col4 number); insert into atest1 values (1,1,1,1); audit update on atest1 by access; update atest1 set col1 = 2; Do NOT commit. >From another session as user SYS, select action_name, obj_name, ses_actions, returncode from dba_audit_trail; ACTION_NAME OBJ_NAME SES_ACTIONS RETURNCODE --------------------------- -------------------- ------------------- ------- --- UPDATE ATEST1 0 The entry is there even if the transaction is not committed. Now rollback the update and check the audit trail; it will be there. If the auditing option were BY SESSION, instead of action, the ACTION_NAME would have been SESSION REC and the column SES_ACTIONS would've been "----------S-----". Hope this helps. Arup ----- Original Message ----- To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 3:24 PM > John, > > I agree w/ everything you said, except for the autocommit functionality. > Autocommit setting has no impact on whether DDL will commit or rollback > any in progress transaction. DDL always commits an in-progress > transaction. The short example below speaks for itself. (8.1.7.4 on > Solaris 2.8) > > SQL> show autocommit > autocommit OFF > SQL> desc a > Name Null? Type > ----------------------------------------- -------- > ---------------------------- > COL1 NUMBER > COL2 NUMBER > > SQL> select * from a where col1=-12345; > > no rows selected > > SQL> insert into a values(-12345,-12345); > > 1 row created. > > SQL> create table xxx(a number); > > Table created. > > SQL> select * from a where col1=-12345; > > COL1 COL2 > ---------- ---------- > -12345 -12345 > > 1 row selected. > > Mark J. Bobak > Oracle DBA > ProQuest Company > Ann Arbor, MI > "Imagination was given to man to compensate him for what he is not, and > a sense of humor was provided to console him for what he is." --Unknown > > > -----Original Message----- > Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 12:10 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > A two-phase commit is simply a way to make sure that commits happen in a > distributed transaction the same way that they do in a local > transaction. The absolute rule is: "Everything commits or Nothing > does." In-between, with some parts committed and some not, is NOT > tolerable. So in your transaction, the change to the audit log is NOT > committed if any part of the transaction fails. > > Everything from the beginning of a transaction up to a commit or > rollback command is part of the transaction. All DDL commands are > transactions unto themselves, so they end the prior transaction (which > is committed, if you have autocommit turned on, or rolled back > otherwise) and the command following a DDL command starts a new > transaction. Triggers execute within the same transaction as the > command that triggered them, and may not include a commit or rollback. > So any DML in a trigger is only committed if the entire transaction is > committed. > > There is only one exception to this behavior. You can declare a stored > procedure as an Autonomous Transaction, which means that you are > starting a new transaction that is independant of the current > transaction. This means that the new transaction can commit or rollback > without affecting or being affected by the current transaction, and can > fail without causing the current transaction to fail or succeed, even if > the current transaction fails. This is very useful and powerful, but use > it with caution, because you are no longer protected by the normal > transaction safeguards. > > -----Original Message----- > Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 9:15 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > Hi All, > > I have a before update trigger for a local table. I know Oracle does > not > commit the inserting audit entry into the audit log table until the user > > commits the changes on the audited table. Can I assume Oracle issues > one > commit for both changes? When commit fails, both changes will be rolled > > back. However, Oracle uses two-phase commit if a trigger updates remote > > tables in a distributed database. What happens if Oracle commits the > change > in audit log table and my change subsequently fails? > > _________________________________________________________________ > Learn how to choose, serve, and enjoy wine at Wine @ MSN. > http://wine.msn.com/ > > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > -- > Author: David Boyd > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). 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