Sorry if I gave the wrong impression about Canada..My dad was born there and grandfather fought for them in WW1...Just that member or not...Canada telling us how to run the AOS is not acceptable...(if they do not like it) form their own group...) but (of course) all this is directed to a small group..maybe one person...who hates us here...As for Andy...give him a break..except in the case of Iris...damned if I know how he got off on that..And for all those who do not like our standing up for the AOS AS IT STANDS...tough.....and I could say worse and am tempted...by the way that form that was sent to fill out is worthless. it wont count so do not bother...How do I know this? Cuz I checked on what could be done for us poor souls (over 460) here in Hawaii that get their bulletin 6 weeks late....It has to be the official form...Sorry to those of you who would love to mess up the situation for your own means....Kind of like Nader is it not??? Also tough buns to those who think that the AOS is not Orchid business...It is THE business here..It is our official compendium of what has happened and what we might expect...plus, of course..the Ads that make the thing go...If you do not like what you read...SCROLL DOWN...I sure do...Bill and a razzbery for he who cares not for what I or others like me write...This is America...remember that...I am just as avid for those who disagree..I just scroll if not in acceptance but would never abrogate the right. Bill (of Bergstrom Orchids...for those who do not know me for all of these 30 years in business) _______________________________________________ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids