Prompted by Lauder's problems in getting delivery from a SE Asian Nursery, I wish to report a more pleasant experience with Saigon Orchids and Flora of Viet Nam. Some of the fleshy bulbed species [Calanthe, Phaius, etc.] I ordered were found to harbor beetle larvae by the supposedly lax Miami Ag inspectors, and required gassing. Ag took the trouble to point the larvae out to me so there was no denying them. The Orchid exporters I deal with request only 50% of the payment up front, permitting holding back a sum for adjustments, if necessary. I pointed out the problem to Saigon O&F and suggested an adjustment of 50% value of the three gassed cartons [out of nine] for delayed injuries. They agreed without dispute. So if one wants SE Asian orchids, I suggest trying Saigon O&F as honorable. In contrast, I have obtained a few shipments from Simanis in Indonesia. The earlier ones contained excellent specimens, but the last shipment was gassed with dire consequences. This was incontestable since live beetles were found on the foliage in my presence, as the boxes were opened. When Mr. Kolopaking, of Simanis bugged me by email for quick settlement because he needed the money "for his sick mother" I opted for an adjustment of 20%. With time, the true extent of the damage was closer to 60%. I so informed him and said that I would expect a further adjustment on the next shipment. I was prepared to sell his stock at the Redlands Fair [Miami] last May, but I requested a further allowance for the damage to the previous shipment. He refused! As a consequence I have not dealt with him since, nor would I take a chance in the future. When live beetles appear, this is clearly the shipper's fault since it indicates inadequate treatment for insects. The moral of the story is that there are reputable orchid dealers in SE Asia, but some are less reputable than others. Caveat emptor. The second conclusion is that Miami Ag Inspectors are anything but lax, but they are willing to take the trouble to point out to the importer the reason that a given shipment has to be gassed. My conclusion is that they are true professionals and Kathy's alarm is unwarranted. Bert Pressman
_______________________________________________ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids