Cathy said: "All den suzukiis look like suzukiis, all Peng Sengs look like Peng Sengs, and Peng Sengs don't look like suzukiis."
All "D. suzukiis" don't look alike. There is no such thing as a "standard suzukii" appearance. Just looking at the flowers of different plants reveals considerable variations ... in size, sepal and petal shape, colour, wartyness of lip, width of the sidelobes, wartyness of the sidelobes, shape of midlobe and shape of midlobe apex. This is precisely the degree of variation you'd encounter in a primary hybrid. All Peng Sengs don't look alike, either. I don't know where your Peng Seng originated, but the first series of photos I took of this hybrid were of the originator's first-flowering plant. His original flowers showed several differences to the one your previous posting refers to ... for instance, the original plant has a mass of red calli totally obscuring the floor of the lip and the base & middle sections of the midlobe .... the only wart-free part of the midlobe is the apex. This feature does not apper in your D. Peng Seng photo, but it is exactly what your awarded "D. suzukii Belmont Highlands" has got. "D. Peng Sengs don't look like suzukiis" . ... well, I suggest you look at a larger sample of each, and compare both your "suzukiis" and Peng Sengs to the originals. Icones said: "Reviewing the flowers of the man made hybrid D. Peng Seng and those of D. suzukii reveals that they don't resemble each other very much. Column, lip, side lobes, etc... are very different." I agree ... but then, one D. suzukii doesn't resemble the next D. suzukii very much, either, unless you're working from a very limited range of material. Similarly, one D. Peng Seng doesn't resemble the next D. Peng Seng particularly closely. In both cases ... just what you'd expect in a primary hybrid. BTW, What column differences are you referring to ? Peter O'Byrne in Singapore _______________________________________________ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com