We're using the 1.7 release version (which I believe had all of the latest 
durability enhancements).

Steve

On Thursday, June 12, 2014 11:33:28 AM UTC-6, Lvc@ wrote:
>
> Hey Steven,
> We're here to help you.
>
> First question: what version are you using? Have you upgraded OrientDB 
> following all the enhancement on durability?
>
> Lvc@
>
>
>
> On 12 June 2014 19:22, StevenTomer <[email protected] <javascript:>> 
> wrote:
>
>> We've been running with OrientDB for a very long time now, and have 
>> deployed many
>> software packages including it.  We love the interface, and have written 
>> our own C++
>> library to talk to the server over the remote mode (Network Binary 
>> Protocol).  We've 
>> invested a lot of time in it, and have found and reported quite a number 
>> of bugs over 
>> the years.
>>
>> However, the database itself seems to be extremely brittle.  I cannot 
>> count the number
>> of times I have had to respond to service calls because the database was 
>> broken.  In
>> almost every case, the database was broken beyond repair, causing total 
>> data loss.
>>
>> In no case was this due to the use of the database - all use was through 
>> the given
>> APIs, Select, Traverse, Record Load, and Transactions.
>>
>> We were hoping that the plocal / WAL upgrades would solve these problems, 
>> but they
>> haven't.  The current situation is untenable for us, as we're trying to 
>> ramp up our
>> deployment of these software packages.
>>
>> Unfortunately, we have not discovered a trigger to the problems, which 
>> has made futile
>> our attempts at determining where the problem lies.  Sometimes it seems 
>> like the
>> problems have been around power failures, but other times it just happens 
>> while in
>> the course of normal operation / running.
>>
>> We've seen:
>> - Record broken errors
>> - Corrupt literal length
>> - Serialization errors when reading a record
>> - Can not restore 1 WAL master record for storage
>> - Where the unique index becomes out-of-sync with the cluster, so items 
>> containing
>> the same value are inserted, so a rebuild of the index fails, after which 
>> the database
>> continues to accept new inserts of records with values already in the 
>> index
>> - When a single record is broken, it shuts down queries across the entire 
>> cluster,
>> eliminating access to any other data.
>>
>> Unfortunately, we can't send broken databases because of proprietary 
>> customer data
>> and privacy concerns.
>>
>> I can't believe that our use case (think a 'forest' of tree hierarchies 
>> that change with
>> some frequency), where we commit trees through transactions, and have 
>> several
>> not unique and one unique index, is out of the norm.  The database 
>> storage should
>> be durable, the index should always be in sync with it, and data loss is 
>> just plain
>> unacceptable.
>>
>> We would much prefer to fix the problems rather than try to find another 
>> solution
>> (or even develop our own if we have to), but without a good way to 
>> reproduce the
>> myriad of failure modes we've seen, we don't know how to report them to 
>> you in a
>> way that you'll be able to do something about.
>>
>> I'd like to give my full recommendation to OrientDB, but can't.  I would 
>> steer any
>> current developers away from it.  Durability, above all other 
>> considerations, should 
>> be the rule.  A database must be bulletproof.
>>
>> Please, I'm begging you for suggestions on where to go from here.  We 
>> really don't
>> want to remove OrientDB from our products, but given the current 
>> direction, there
>> really doesn't seem to be much choice.
>>
>> Thank you for your attention.
>>
>> Steven Tomer
>>
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