Sorry Joseph, are you saying that you have hacked my facebook, email and phones and know the exact details of every conversation I have had with anyone over the last two years?
If not, then please do not impugn my character by implying that I am lying. You do not know what people have asked for. Considering that several other people who have responded in this conversation relayed very similar issues should put that top bed. There are very real problems with this kind of document ending up with extreme language due to a very vocal minority. As to arguments on facebook – don’t go there. That is NOT part of this conversation as per Anne’s request, and YOU use personal insults and bullying tactics in place of making arguments on facebook. You even stated that in a reply to Kate – that you were deliberately insulting me with the hope of provoking a response. How about you and I ignore each other, hopefully for the remainder of the life of the universe? I have zero respect for you and do not wish to converse with you in any form, ever. This will be the last response I make to you on this forum, or in fact any other. To the moderators – I do not think any further messages on this thread between Joseph and myself should be posted. Just reject anything wither of us says if it references the other. John From: Origami <origami-boun...@lists.digitalorigami.com> On Behalf Of Joseph Wu Sent: Monday, May 17, 2021 10:41 AM To: The Origami Mailing List <origami@lists.digitalorigami.com> Subject: Re: [Origami] CoC - Kicking off the Discussion On May 16, 2021, at 17:05, John Scully <jscu...@ohiopaperfolders.com <mailto:jscu...@ohiopaperfolders.com> > wrote: The background is that since the first person asked us about one a little over a year ago we have had maybe six people make what range from suggestions to demands about what should be included. The reason I pushed back so strongly was some of those demands. John, Can we please start with an attempt to discuss this in good faith? Your narrative of being the victim of unreasonable demands differs greatly from the accounts of trying to talk to you about this topic that I have heard from some of those “maybe six people”. Watching the way you present arguments on Facebook, it is pretty obvious that you like to sprinkle these sort of subtle stabs at the people you are arguing against in order to detract from their credibility. This sort of behavior is not conducive to a good faith discussion of the sort that Anne has set up for us here. Indeed, I question the need to bring up the circumstances of the argument about CenterFold’s code of conduct (or lack thereof) when this discussion is supposed to be about the pros and cons of codes of conduct in general. “The background” of the CenterFold situation is not relevant. Please stick to the topic at hand and take care not to impugn the characters of others. Thank you. ---------- Joseph Wu, Origami Artist (via iPhone) e: josep...@origami.as <mailto:josep...@origami.as> w: http://www.origami.as flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/josephwuorigami/ facebook: http://www.facebook.com/joseph.wu.origami
