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> From:         [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 3:23 PM
> To:   Orion-Interest
> Subject:      RE: What's going on with Evermind?
> 
> What IRC server/channel are you using?
> 
> Darren.
> 
>        -----Original Message-----
>       From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>       Sent:   Wednesday, July 12, 2000 2:11 PM
>       To:     Orion-Interest
>       Subject:        RE: What's going on with Evermind?
> 
>       Hmm..I get great support. I join IRC often too and get help there. I
> think the team is doing a pretty good job overall. They are working hard
> to keep the product going and growing the business. These things take
> time. For example, in the company I am working for, even though we got
> $45mil backing, its taken us 6 months to find a place to move to, get
> things rolling, and try to hire some more people. This being here in
> Silicon Valley..the best place (I think..) to find engineers and VPs, etc.
> So it may take them some time to grow to the level where they can offer
> better support.
> 
>       There are plenty of us that are more familiar with Orion that can
> help if possible. Also, a mailing list isn't always going to guarantee
> results. I often skim over many emails. I could probably answer some
> questions, but don't because I don't read them all.
> 
>       For whats it worth, Orion is the best app server out there for what
> it offers. You can pay $15K per cpu for WebLogic or others if you like.
> You get more, including better support, but you get less of a capable
> program in my opinion, and at 10x the cost (if you buy on a per cpu basis
> and only have one cpu..otherwise Orion is much cheaper if you run dual or
> quad cpu servers), you can't go wrong.
> 
>               What's going on with Evermind?  
> 
>               I've sent messages to this list, sales, info, and support
> about different issues and no one has responded.  I thought I remember
> someone saying that they were overwhelmed since returning from JavaOne and
> that the support situation would be resolved this week.
> 
>               I haven't seen it, if anything it's gotten much worse and
> there's been nothing but silence from the Orion team.  If we knew what was
> happening it would minimize the frustration levels.  I'm going to be hard
> pressed to recommend this product for production use given the type of
> support I've gotten over the past few days -- none!
> 
>               I'm really trying to hold-on here because I really like the
> Orion server but if I can't use it because of the lack of documentation or
> support, well....don't want to think about it.
> 
>               Is anyone else feeling the same?
> 
> 
> 
>               Thanks 
>               Tom
> 
>               Tom Wnuk
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