As MVC and Struts (and Blueprint) become more popular way to develop Web Apps, some comercial J2EE servers are starting to support it. Here is Struts online seminar for free, together with a real time Chat so you can discuss you questions. http://www.silverstream.com/virtsem3 , register well before Tuesday 9/26/2000 1PM Eastern Time, 10 AM Pacific to get a password e-mailed. You can also find out how to get a beta version of a "J2EE comerical app. server." Hope you like ... Vic