In following the discussions from the person working with Iplanet, I understand that you could have a hardware solution with multiple Orion servers. Did I understand that correctly? Let me pose a hypothetical question: Suppose a company the size of Sears, picked Orion and Gemstone as the solutions to run their e-business, and the site would have a magnitude of traffic. The Gemstone respondent mentioned that VM's max out at 100-200 concurrent users, and that Gemstone would start or use another VM. Could a solution be found with hardware and Orion, that would equal the Gemstone solution, should money be no object? If so, then what would it be and how would you configure it (high level)? Out of curiosity, what would be the more cost effective solution?