I met Karl Avedal yesterday at a Java forum in Stockholm. They're 3
employees as of today, and probably two more joining up shortly. He spoke of
an organic expansion of Ironflare AB.

The main effort is to build partner ships with other companies regarding
support of the product, and to start selling support packs. The license fee
for Orion will remain the same. The support pack is of course another issue.
The reason for partners is that the employees of Ironflare today are
technicians and like to keep doing what they do - programming on the server.

Keeping the license fee low will enable developers to bundle the AS, keeping
the costs low.

regards



Johan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan North" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Orion-Interest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 11:11 AM
Subject: RE: WE NEED NEWS! We need to know Orion is alive & well!


> Nice analogy :o)
>
> And one day I'll be able to say that I had all their early albums before
> they became famous...
>
> Dan/tastapod
>
>
> At 13:02 05/04/2001 -0500, you wrote:
> >How many people are actually working on Orion, and what is their
> >forte?  Most likely, it is probably developed and maintain by a small
> >number (maybe under six).  Sure, they are successful, and sell, but they
> >could sell more.  Think up them as an up and coming rock group.  Add a
> >good manager (CEO with a good business plan) and a promoter (a great
> >technical writer working the documentation), and suddenly you have U2.
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Matthew E. Porter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 11:57 AM
> >To: Orion-Interest
> >Subject: Re: WE NEED NEWS! We need to know Orion is alive & well!
> >
> >
> >I also would like to here from someone at Ironflare/Orion concerning the
> >status of the company.  My company is currently planning to build our
> >internal infrastructure on the Orion server.
> >
> >
> >-matthew porter
> >
> >
> >elephantwalker wrote:
> > >
> > > I have tried to schedule phone calls with Orion by sending emails and
faxes
> > > to ironflare, nothing seems to work. We are going to deploy soon, but
if I
> > > can't talk to these guys at least once, there's no way we are forking
over
> > > any money. We need that "nice fuzzy feeling" that you get by talking
to a
> > > warm body.
> > >
> > > Are there any paying customers on the news service that are getting
prompt
> > > and reliable service for Orion, either by email or phone?
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Elephantwalker
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Neville
> > > Burnell
> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 7:27 PM
> > > To: Orion-Interest
> > > Subject: WE NEED NEWS! We need to know Orion is alive & well!
> > >
> > > Its been around 4 months since Orion went on "life-support" - ie
> > >
> > > - the website went on hold ...
> > > - Karl & Magnus went silent on company futures except for rare emails
> > > promising news soon
> > > - the software development slowed to a crawl [by comparison to last
> > > year's "rush"]
> > > - bug fixes slowed to a crawl
> > > - my email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] went unanswered
> > >
> > > Please Karl, Magnus, give us some news, even if its only to understand
> > > whats happened in the last 4 months
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Aaron Tavistock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, 5 April 2001 11:48 AM
> > > To: Orion-Interest
> > > Subject: RE: Any news from Orion yet??
> > >
> > > Wasn't this from *WAY* back in January...
> > >
> > > I know that Orion 1.4.5 was released around January 22nd, there has
been
> > > the
> > > updates to 1.4.7, *AND* there were rumors about 1.4.8.   But, there
> > > really
> > > hasn't been any news about the goings on of Evermind/IronFlare.  How
are
> > > you
> > > guys doing?  Whats the state of IronFlare?  It would be nice to hear
> > > whats
> > > going on...
> > >
>
> --
> Dan North
> VP Development  -  Cadrion Software Ltd  -  +44 (0)20 7440 9550
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