Joe,

Using a word like 'bigot' is a little strong, there are several technical
experts that have evaluated the soap standard and xml-rpc (often, you can
use xml-rpc with soap), and concluded that soap is a "heavy" standard,
versus the relatively light implementations of xml-rpc out there. So this is
a considered opinion.

In the end, isv's will use whatever gets us to the end of the project in the
cheapest, most reliable way.

Regards,

the elephantwalker





-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Joseph B.
Ottinger
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 4:08 AM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: RE: HELP! 1.4.5 and JMS


Well, that's useful. Actually, I'm investigating the use of SOAP now (not
being an anti-MS idiot^Wbigot and all) and it's pretty nice; with a decent
toolkit like GLUE (http://www.themindelectric.com/) it's easy to use with
Orion, fast, and cross-platform and cross-language. All pluses, if you
need that kind of capability.

On Thu, 24 May 2001, elephantwalker wrote:

> Yes...drop SOAP and use XML-RPC. Faster and lighter and NOT a Microsoft
> solution.
>
> www.xml-rpc.org
>
> also Brett McGlaughlin's book Java and XML.
>
> Regards,
>
> the elephantwalker
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Su, Yi
>   Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 8:01 PM
>   To: Orion-Interest
>   Subject: RE: HELP! 1.4.5 and JMS
>
>
>   Hello,
>
>   Does anyone knows that what Java tools, libraries are currently
supporting
> XML schema and XLL.
>
>   Is there resources for me to look up for using SOAP using Java?
>
>   Thanks alot.
>
>   Regards,
>
>   Yeoman
>
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: Vidur Dhanda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>     Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 10:16 AM
>     To: Orion-Interest
>     Cc: 'Orion-Interest'
>     Subject: Re: HELP! 1.4.5 and JMS
>
>
>     Hi Kesav,
>     Thanks for the tip. I tried that with both 1.4.5 and 1.4.8.  After
> removing the connection factory line, in 1.4.5, the client hangs on
> TopicConnection.createSubscriber().  If I give the createTopicConnection a
> username and password, then the server throws a NPE and the client hangs
at
> createTopicConnection().
>
>     The same problem persists in 1.4.8.
>
>     I'm sure I'm doing something really stupid.  However, I have no idea
how
> to solve it.  I'm attaching some code in the hope that someone can help me
> out of this mess.  I've tried it against 1.4.5 and 1.4.8.  And I am really
> desperate!
>
>     Thanks,
>     Vidur
>
>     Kesav Kumar wrote:
>
>
>       Just remove the connectionfactory line from your jms.xml.
>
>       Kesav Kumar
>       Software Engineer
>       Voquette, Inc.
>       650 356 3740
>       mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>       http://www.voquette.com
>       Voquette...Delivering Sound Information
>
>       -----Original Message-----
>       From: Vidur Dhanda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>       Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 11:31 AM
>       To: Orion-Interest
>       Subject: HELP! 1.4.5 and JMS
>
>       Please help!  I broke something in my code and can't figure it out.
> On
>       the client, I'm consistently getting:
>       java.lang.NullPointerException
>        at java.io.DataOutputStream.writeUTF(DataOutputStream.java:329)
>        at java.io.DataOutputStream.writeUTF(DataOutputStream.java:306)
>        at com.evermind.server.jms.cj.<init>(JAX)
>        at com.evermind.server.jms.b8.start(JAX)
>        at
>
>
com.epistemic.km.server.NotificationBase.getConnection(NotificationBase.java
> :89)
>
>        at
>
>
com.epistemic.km.server.NotificationBase.getSession(NotificationBase.java:10
> 1)
>
>        at
>
>
com.epistemic.km.server.NotificationBase.getSubscriber(NotificationBase.java
> :44)
>
>       Auto-started clients can send/receive messages without trouble.
>
>       getConnection() calls createTopicConnection() and then start().
>       If I use, createConnection (usr, pwd), then the system hangs.
>
>       In jms.xml, I have:
>       <jms-server host="192.168.10.2" port="9127">
>        <topic-connection-factory host="192.168.10.2"
>             location="jms/notificationFactory" port="9127" />
>        <topic name="DWItem Notification"
location="jms/dwItemNotification">
>        </topic>
>
>       Any ideas?  I'm on version 1.4.5.  1.4.8 has a regression on bug 188
>       that is a show stopper for us.  And in fact, this code worked uptil
>       yesterday when I made changes to try and get 1.4.8 to work.
>
>       TIA,
>       Vidur
>
>       PS.  If possible, please also cc me directly.  I'm really desperate.
>       --
>       Vidur Dhanda
>       Active Solutions
>       tel: 617/566-1252
>       cell: 617/821-7115
>       [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>       www.active-solutions-inc.com
>
>
>     --
>     Vidur Dhanda
>     Active Solutions
>     tel: 617/566-1252
>     cell: 617/821-7115
>     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>     www.active-solutions-inc.com
>
>
>

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