I have to add my voice to this. This is just an example of the problems
that can happen when a lot of well meaning and eager people do what seems
to be a good idea, yet turns out to do nothing beyond make the problem
they're trying to fix even worse.
The people who end up suffering are those who need actual help with Orion,
as every new mailing list further dilutes the pool of competent
knowledgable people present on any given resource that can provide help.
I for one will NOT be joining any orion related mailing lists other o-i,
and I would go so far as asking you all to likewise resist the temptation
of 'encouraging' these other lists, for the following reasons:
- Any individual list is 'worth less', as it's only a subset of the
community.
- The barrier of entry to Orion is higher (who wants to join 4 mailing
lists just to ask a simple question?)
- Bias that is very likely to occur (MY support site/list/whatever is
cooler/better/richer than yours!)
- Turf issues. (don't crosspost to our list! Go away and ask *that*
list! Oh now you come to us after you failed on *that* list?)
- Same old same old. Does anyone truly think the rash of 'is Orion
dead/gone/sold out' and 'have Magnus/Karl given up/died/become
hermits/taken up fishing/sold out' questions that pop up every couple of
months iks going to dimish? On the contrary, now you get per-list
threads about the exact same thing! Wheee!
Of course, feel free to ignore all this and join six orion related lists
and sign up with four orion support websites. More power to you.
Hani
On Sun, 26 Aug 2001, Mike Cannon-Brookes wrote:
> Guys,
>
> I'm both for and against this new Orion list, but surely we're solving
> NOTHING other than creating more email if we send support messages to both
> lists? (Meaning everyone subscribes to both lists, everyone get's everything
> twice)
>
> Is there a sensible way we can resolve this? Personally I'd say use o-i when
> it's up, only use the egroups list when there's a problem.
>
> -mike
>
>
> Mike Cannon-Brookes :: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Daniele
> > Arduini
> > Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2001 7:14 PM
> > To: Orion-Interest
> > Subject: Re: Virtual DirecTory --> Help
> >
> >
> > Eddie Post wrote:
> > > Hellu,
> > >
> > > I am trying to exculde my JSP files from the war file, such that the
> > > designer can easily change them without my help (withoud deployment,
> > > etc...).
> > >
> > > Anyone any idea/advice how to do that as I tried many things, but
> > > appearantly am not able to succeed ?
> > >
> >
> > 1. create an "orion" user and an "orion" group.
> > 2. chown -R orion:orion /opt/orion
> > 3. Run Orion as "orion" user from a shell script:
> > ...
> > umask 002 # IMPORTANT!
> > cd /opt/orion
> > java -jar orion.jar $@
> > ...
> >
> > 4. add your designer to the "orion" group.
> > in /etc/group:
> > ...
> > orion::204:designer
> > ...
> >
> > 5. use symbolic links to enable access .jsp pages from
> > designer's home.
> >
> >
> > bye,
> > Daniele Arduini
> >
> >
> > > What I tried (I am running on a linux box, RedHat 7.0, Orion
> > 1.5.1, JDK
> > > 1.3) ?
> > > - First I changed the jsp entry in my web.xml, from a relative
> > path to a
> > > absolute path, that doesn't work, as he always starts looking
> > from within
> > > the web application:
> > > -----------
> > > <servlet>
> > > <servlet-name>MainWebShop</servlet-name>
> > > <display-name>Main page of web-shop</display-name>
> > > <description></description>
> > >
> > >
> > <jsp-file>/home/development/vwr/web-client/jsp/webwinkel/html/main
> > .jsp</jsp-
> > > file>
> > > </servlet>
> > > ----------
> > > - I did add a virtual directoy entry in orion-web.xml of the the
> > default web
> > > application, as the application runs under the default web application:
> > > -----
> > > <virtual-directory real-path="/home/development/vwr/web-client/jsp"
> > > virtual-path="/VWR/jsp" />
> > > ----
> > > However this doesn't work as the j2ee application itself listens to
> > the root
> > > url /VWR/.
> > > It also tried the following:
> > > -----
> > > <virtual-directory real-path="/home/development/vwr/web-client/jsp"
> > > virtual-path="/VWR_jsp" />
> > > ----
> > > Which works but then the jsp's don't run in the application
> > environment, and
> > > as such you need to make a connection as if you were an external j2ee
> > > client, which isn't very logical ofcource.
> > > - I tried to put a symbolic link in the war file to the jsp's, but jar
> > > doesn't understand that. It will just copy all the files.
> > >
> > > Any ideas are more than welcome.
> > >
> > > Eddie :(
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
