And don't forget we'll all be using Drag and Drop Visual tools to do coding soon, so we won't even need tools like IDEA. I guess this will make Computer Science degrees irrelevant as well?
LOL Geoff > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of The Boss > Sent: Monday, 25 March 2002 10:27 PM > To: Orion-Interest > Cc: Jarrod Roberson > Subject: OK, here's Real World: was: idea=$395.00USD was: RE: > Java IDE? > > > Hi Jarrod, > > I would like to share some IBM insights with you relevant to some of > your comments ... > > > So anyone that chants the "FREE mantra" keep using Tomcat and Vi and > > all the other "free" crap because in the end it will cost you > > HUNDREDS TIMES more than buying a proper tool and saving > money over > > the long haul. Then again if you are lowballing jobs, and > working on > > crappy little projects all this is moot, why are you using Orion > > then, why not use JBoss or any of the other FREE EJB containers. I > > mean you "COULD" move a mountian with a plastic spoon, > hell they are > > FREE at every fast food joint, but would'nt a sane and reasonable > > person spend the money on real earth moving equipment and > get the job > > done quickly so they could move on to the next paying job > moving the > > next mountain. > > Some time ago I was involved in IBM's "San Fransisco" project, about > which you may know. This enterrpise level tool was > very large and free for development I understand. Various tool makers > came up with ways of enhancing the development > process including the integration of the Rational suite of > products. OK. > That was the story from the West. It turned out that > the most productive developers of San Fransisco applications were NOT > the people who used fancy, expensive Yankee IDE's > or tools, but the teams of hundreds of Indian programmers > around Mumbai. > The Indian software houses could not afford to > pay guys like you, and provide guys like you with tools to make you > productive, and save you time, so you could be with your > family. No. They could afford to hire hundreds of developers > and provide > them with cheap development tools, like 'vi' ;), and > let them loose on a task. So from this International competitive > perspective your comments are way off the mark, the kind > of productivity you speak about, (great design guys, large scale > projects, etc) are irrelevant in the global domain. It > doesn't matter in the end how productive you are, or what > tools you use, you will NEVER > be able to compete with the developer farms of > countries like India, and just wait till China comes on line! > I guess > the same thing that happened to the Western clothing > industry WILL happen to the Western software development > business - it > will be moved off-shore into countries that have > large volumes of super-cheap educated labour, using free > development tools. > > Unfortunately your comments sound like those of an ageing > Western prima > donna whose tunes are increasingly less > popular. Sure tools like Idea were built for prima donna Western > software developers ... but with developer farms coming > on line ... prima donnas and the tools that support them are becoming > less and less of a good business proposition. > > Perhaps you could start a "crappy little project" that could > make you a > lot of money, so you could retire early? > ;) > > Regards > goffredo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >