Bob wrote: > (2) Not only does Pliny use "infra" (below) in his descriptions, but also > "supra" (above). It would seem to me likely that these are related as > geographical/topographical pointers. So what does Pliny mean when he > locates > "Judaea" "supra" Idumea and Samaria (NH 5.70)? He has just finished > mentioning the "mountains" of Sebaste and Gamala in Samaria, so does he > mean that "Judaea" in which he also mentions "mountains," is at a > generally higher altitude? Iuodaia is indeed above Idumaia and the Samareitis in the topographical sense. But different from the Jordan story the source here is probably a Jewish one. You have to go up to Jerusalem, understand? I'd assume, then, the library of Agrippa II, for the letter-friendship is known, I recall at least a passage somewhere in Hengel_Zealots_Edinburgh 1989/97. Tot ziens. Dierk ~`´~ ( o o ) -oOOO--------OOOo----- Cunctine adestis, liberi? oooO Hic est Casparolus ( ) Oooo *g* ---\ (---( )----------------- \_) ) / (_/ For private reply, e-mail to "Dierk van den Berg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ---------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe from Orion, e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: "unsubscribe Orion." Archives are on the Orion Web site, http://orion.mscc.huji.ac.il.