I am replying to the Digest form of this list so my comments are a day behind. I just wanted to point out that the Suda mention of the Essaioi can be found on-line at http://www.stoa.org/sol-bin/findentry.pl?keywords=epsilon+3123 It is a short entry and this is it: Essaioi: Ioudaioi, asketai, Pharisaion kai grammateon ten askesin ex epimetrou dianestekotes, progonoi Ionadab, huiou Rhichab tou dikaiou. philalleloi kai ton allon eulabeis pleion: hoi ten men hedonen hos kakian apostrephontai, ten de sophrosunen kai enkrateian kai to me tois pathesin hupopiptein areten hupolambanousi. kai gamos men par' autois huperoratai, allotrious de paidas neous eti proslambanomenoi kai didaskontes hos sungeneis hegountai kai tois ethesin heauton entupousi. kai pan aischron apoballontai kai pasan allen areten exaskousin. hoi epimelountai tes ethikes lexeos, theoriai de ta polla paramenousin. enthen kai Essaioi kalountai, touto delountos tou onomatos, toutesti theoretikoi. hoti Essaioi huperteroi sphodra kai lian huperkeimenoi ton Pharisaion kata ten politeian. David West Tulsa Oklahoma For private reply, e-mail to "David West" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ---------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe from Orion, e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: "unsubscribe Orion." Archives are on the Orion Web site, http://orion.mscc.huji.ac.il. (PLEASE REMOVE THIS TRAILOR BEFORE REPLYING TO THE MESSAGE)