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From: "Albert I. Baumgarten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Orion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 4:57 PM
Subject: orion-list refernce and afterthought
> 1. For a discussion of the place of boundary marking in Jewish groups of
> antiquity see my article in Judaism 47 (1998) 387-404.
> 2. I think Josephus felt the need to note that the Essenes were Jews
> because their boundary marking against other (non-Essene) Jews was much
> more extreme than that of the other groups he discussed.
Different from the extreme 'assassins' (e.g. urban guerrilla), the Essenes
didn't came under the Lex Cornelia de sicariis et veneficis (81 BC).
> Other groups
> also treated Jews who were not members of their group as if they were
> aliens (see Josephus' concluding remark on the Sadducees, War 2.166, or
> his comment on the Sicarii, War 7.254-255), but none of the other groups
> he described in War 2 were as extreme as the Essenes.
Different from the historical Sicarii, the 'literary' Essenes didn't favor
forced circumcisions. And that's really extreme, I think.
> For the present
> discussion I note two instances of the extreme nature of the Essenes,
> both based on comments in War 2: (1) If Essenes immersed after contact
> with an Essene of lower grade, as if after contact with an alien (War
> 2.150), then one can guess what Essenes might have done after contact
> with a non-Essene Jew.
Probably the same.
> (2) Ordinary Jews were excluded from the Essene
> meal, even when the Essenes provided the food. The model for this
> provision was the exclusion of non-Jews from the Temple (War 2.129).
I guess if the matrix is 1QS vi.2 - the common meal of the rbjm acc. to the
tkwn.
> Al Baumgarten
Tot ziens,
Dierk
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