Hi Paul,

thanks for your email. I'm curious, was MonAMI done within the context of some
EU grid project?

In principle we have nothing against new packages providing new
functionality. And making a component look like an OSCAR package is not too
difficult. Unfortunately we are somewhat behind in documenting the new package
format, the best you can get is at
https://svn.oscar.openclustergroup.org/trac/oscar/wiki/BuildOpkg

Foreign packages can be added with the help of OPD, so if you want to package
MonAMI and build the RPMs for the supported distributions, this would be
great. We can help you with packaging and adding it's reference to some OPD
repository. You'll need some web space to provide the package to other OSCAR
users. And if it turns out that the package is interesting and used by many
people, we can also think about integrating it fully into OSCAR.

Can you please give some more details on MonAMI? I understand it runs resource
measurement programs in /etc/monami.d/. Does it do that in fixed or variable
periods of time? Variable per metric? How about the announcement of the
results to the monitoring program (eg. ganglia): is it done at fixed periods
of time? What happens if a metric measurement doesn't return or takes too
long? Does MonAMI by any means aggregate check results?

Thanks,
best regards,
Erich

On Tuesday 31 October 2006 19:01, Paul Millar wrote:
> [NB.  I'm sending an email following a suggestion by Bernard Li (who, I 
> believe, was working on OSCAR) to see if anyone here is interested in a 
> project I'm working on.  If you feel this email's too spam-like, just say and 
> I'll go away :-]
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'm currently involved in a project[1] (called MonAMI) to monitor large-scale 
> Grid middleware deployments (in particular, W-LCG and ATLAS software) and the 
> underlying fabric layer (e.g. Apache, MySQL, NUT, ...).
> 
> MonAMI is (in essence) a simple light-weight daemon (written in C) that 
> provides monitoring information.  It has a plugin structure, with reader 
> plugins (for gathering information) and writer plugins (that send information 
> somewhere).  The project currently has writer plugins that can send data to 
> some common monitoring systems (Ganglia, Nagios, R-GMA, MonaLisa, ...), more 
> can be added.
> 
> Different people (sys-admin, grid-middleware providers, VOs, ...) can say 
> what 
> they want monitored by dropping files into /etc/monami.d.  The MonAMI daemon 
> does sufficient monitoring to satisfy everyone (with some safety checks).    
> For a slightly more detailed view (with some diagrams) please have a look at 
> the slides[2] from a recent talk.
> 
> One of the MonAMI plugins is to provide data for Ganglia.  Over the past 
> year, 
> I've exchanged a few emails with the Ganglia developers, which brought me in 
> contact with Bernard Li.  He suggested that, as OSCAR uses ganglia, there 
> might be some interest within the OSCAR project towards using MonAMI as part 
> of its monitoring.
> 
> Suppose one had a server with MySQL installed.  A "mysql-monitoring" RPM 
> could 
> contain a suitable file in /etc/monami.d and a dependency on MonAMI: 
> installing this RPM would ensure the MySQL monitoring happens.  If the server 
> had Apache HTTP server installed, an apache-monitoring RPM could be 
> installed.  If the server had both MySQL and Apache installed, then one could 
> install both RPMs ( {mysql,apache}-monitoring.rpm) and both services would be 
> monitored.
> 
> From a fairly recent email, I understand Bernard is "moving on" from OSCAR, 
> so 
> I'm emailing this list directly to see if anyone is interested in looking 
> into the possible use of MonAMI within OSCAR.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Paul.
> 
> [1] http://monami.sourceforge.net/
> [2] http://www.allhands.org.uk/2006/programme/index.html#665
> 


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