Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

> Quoting Michael Chase-Salerno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
> > On Thu, 2004-02-19 at 15:04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > I found the mksiimage command, by using ps -aefw | grep mksiimage, while
> > trying
> > > to build a new image, from the Installation Wizard.  However, I cannot
> run
> > the
> > > command outside of the wizard.  If I try using the name oscarimage
> (which
> > is the
> > > first image I created using the wizard), I get a message saying, Image
> > > oscarimage exists -- not added.  If i try a different name (I used
> > oscarimage2),
> > > I get the following error:
> > > 
> > > FATAL: Can't remove /var/lib/systemimager/scripts/oscarimage2.master!
> > > Package install failed.
> > This is just the cleanup failing. There must be some error upstream of
> > that which is actually causing it to fail. 
> > 
> > > 
> > > Is there a way to change the --arch flag that will be used within the
> > OSCAR
> > > Installation Wizard?  Perhaps you know another way around this new
> problem
> > that
> > > has arised.
> > > 
> > In the script "oscar_wizard" in the scripts directory, there is a
> > subroutine called "build_oscar_image". On about the 10th line of that
> > subroutine, it is setting the architecture:
> > 
> >     my $arch = (uname)[4];
> >     $arch =~ s/i.86/i386/;
> > 
> > Just add a line like:
> >      
> >     $arch="<arch>"
> > 
> > replacing <arch> with your desired architecture, after that second line.
> 
> I'm assuming you mean the line that says:
> 
> my $hostname = (uname)[1];
> my ($shorthostname,$domainname) = split(/\./,$hostname,2);
> 
> I put $hostname="i586"; in between those two lines.

I tried that, but the image still appears to be the wrong architecture.
Should I try running the start_over script and then do it?

> > 
> > > Thanks again,
> > > 
> > > Danny
> > > 
> > > > The command is executed on the server. I thought that it would be in
> the
> > > > install log file, but I may be wrong on that. You should be able to
> > > > figure out the appropriate command flags from the OSCAR image screen
> to
> > > > translate into the mksiimage command. Check the man page for mksiimage
> > > > to help. If that's not enough, you can start an image build from OSCAR
> > > > and go grab the command from the process table (ps -aefw | grep
> > > > mksiimage). Just add the --arch flag with the correct architecture. 
> > > > 
> > > > This will not make an OSCAR image though, it will just be a standard
> > > > Linux image, but once you verify that it is the problem, we can look
> at
> > > > how to get the OSCAR customization done.
> > > > 
> > > > Mike
> > > > 
> > > > On Thu, 2004-02-19 at 12:46, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > > > Where do i execute the mksiimage command, on the server or on the
> > client? 
> > > > Also,
> > > > > I couldn't find the mksiimage command in the oscarinstall.log file. 
> > Should
> > > > I be
> > > > > looking somewhere else?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thanks again,
> > > > > 
> > > > > Danny
> > > > > 
> > > > > > I seem to remember replying to this on one of the SIS lists, but I
> > maybe
> > > > > > mistaken on that. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Usually the "Illegal Instruction" error means that the
> architecture
> > of
> > > > > > the image doesn't match the node that is being installed. OSCAR
> > assumes
> > > > > > that the server and nodes are reasonably similar in architecture,
> and
> > so
> > > > > > it doesn't present the architecture option when building an image.
> > You
> > > > > > can use the mksiimage command directly to build an image of the
> > > > > > appropriate architecture and see if that works. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Mike
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On Thu, 2004-02-19 at 09:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > > > > > Ok, I now have RedHat 9.0 installed on my machine.  However, I
> am
> > > > running
> > > > > > into
> > > > > > > the same problem.  Is there somewhere I can check to see what
> > script
> > > > is
> > > > > > trying
> > > > > > > to be run, when it says Illegal instruction.  I also saw someone
> > > > modified
> > > > > > their
> > > > > > > /etc/exports and their /etc/fstab files.  Do you think I'll have
> to
> > do
> > > > > > that?  If
> > > > > > > so, what do I change?  I'm also not too familiar with SSH, I saw
> > > > something
> > > > > > about
> > > > > > > problems with that, in one of the emails.  Let me know how you
> > would
> > > > > > > troubleshoot the problem.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Danny
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > I don't have a copy of RedHat 9.0, but I installed the
> > Workstation
> > > > > > option.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Hi Danny:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > When you installed RedHat 8.0, what type of installation did
> > you
> > > > > > choose? 
> > > > > > > > >   Workstation, Server or Custom?
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Not sure if this helps, but you might want to try RedHat 9.0
> > and
> > > > give
> > > > > > it 
> > > > > > > > > a shot.  I am currently running RH 9.0 with OSCAR 3.0 so I
> > might
> > > > be
> > > > > > able 
> > > > > > > > > to help you troubleshoot this better if we are on the same
> > page.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Bernard
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > All my network cards are Intel PRO/100 S.  When I try and
> > > > network
> > > > > > boot,
> > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > gets
> > > > > > > > > > a DHCP request, and everything seems to be going smoothly.
> 
> > > > Hundreds
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > files
> > > > > > > > > > names scroll down the screen.  It looks like it is done,
> > since
> > > > the
> > > > > > last
> > > > > > > > > file is
> > > > > > > > > > /usr/lib/locale/ar_SA.utf8.LC_NUMERIC.  It is then
> followed
> > by
> > > > the
> > > > > > error
> > > > > > > > at
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > bottom of this email.  However, through talking to someone
> > from
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > > sisuite
> > > > > > > > > > mailing group, I thought the problem was that my server is
> a
> > P3
> > > > and
> > > > > > my
> > > > > > > > > clients
> > > > > > > > > > are all P2s.  So, I tried doing the whole install process
> > again
> > > > from
> > > > > > > > > scratch
> > > > > > > > > > with a new computer.  I am now getting stuck before the
> > Oscar
> > > > > > > > Installation
> > > > > > > > > > Wizard shows up.  The log file for that is in one of my
> > emails. 
> > > > I
> > > > > > was
> > > > > > > > told
> > > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > looks as though, I haven't copied the RPMs from the RedHat
> > 8.0
> > > > CDs,
> > > > > > even
> > > > > > > > > though
> > > > > > > > > > I actually have.  I check the /tftpboot/rpm directory, and
> > they
> > > > are
> > > > > > > > there.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >>Hi Danny:
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >>What network cards are you using for your client nodes? 
> Can
> > you
> > > > tell
> > > > > > us
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >>what exactly happens when you try to network boot it?  Did
> it
> > try
> > > > to
> > > > > > get
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >>a DHCP request?
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >>Cheers,
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >>Bernard
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >>>The error that is at the bottom, is all I know about the
> > error. 
> > > > I
> > > > > > > > > followed
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >>the
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >>>instructions in the documentation, and I get that error
> when
> > I
> > > > try
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > boot
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >>my
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >>>client nodes.  For some reason the clients won't do a
> > network
> > > > boot,
> > > > > > > > which
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >>is why
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >>>I am booting from floppy.  It looks like it is working. 
> It
> > > > appears
> > > > > > as
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >>though
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >>>files are being copied from the server to the clients,
> but
> > then
> > > > it
> > > > > > > > fails
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >>with
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >>>that error at the bottom.
> > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>Danny-
> > > > > > > > > >>>>I may have lost track- can you re-iterate your problem
> > again? 
> > > > I
> > > > > > can't
> > > > > > > > > make
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>the connection between the rsync error I see below and
> > > > changing
> > > > > > boot
> > > > > > > > > order
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>in the BIOS.
> > > > > > > > > >>>>thx-
> > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>        Jeremy
> > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>At 07:56 AM 2/4/2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>I tried changing the BIOS settings to network boot, but
> > it
> > > > didn't
> > > > > > > > work.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >>I
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>changed the boot order from A,C to LAN,A,C, but that
> > didn't
> > > > seem
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > work.
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>Is
> > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>there something else I have to keep in mind?
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>The problem with SystemImager you are discribing
> sounds
> > > > sounds
> > > > > > like
> > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>disagreement in the documentation, not a problem with
> > Oscar
> > > > > > itself. 
> > > > > > > > > The
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>Oscar package (which heavily uses SystemImager as a
> > > > component)
> > > > > > has
> > > > > > > > > been
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>tested on RH 8 and 9 and works with them.  As I have
> > said
> > > > > > > > previously,
> > > > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>did
> > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>not use an autoinstall disk when I put my cluster
> > together,
> > > > I
> > > > > > > > changed
> > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>the
> > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>BIOS settings to use network booting instead.
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>From what I understand about the different flavors of
> > > > Oscar,
> > > > > > > > > "Standard"
> > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>is
> > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>probably the right one to use.  I am not sure what
> your
> > > > problem
> > > > > > is,
> > > > > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>I
> > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>don't think either of those things are it.
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>Original Message -----------------------
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>Mr. Edwards,
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>I read the SystemImager documentation, and it says
> that
> > it
> > > > only
> > > > > > > > > supports
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>RedHat
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>7.2.  However, OSCAR does not support RedHat 7.2.  How
> do
> > I
> > > > get
> > > > > > > > around
> > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>this
> > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>problem?  Also, when I am making my autoinstall boot
> > disk
> > > > from
> > > > > > the 
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>wizard, I
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>am
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>using the [Standard] boot flavor.  Should I be using a
> > > > different
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>flavor?  If
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>so,
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>which one?
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>Thanks again,
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>Danny
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>I am using RedHat 8.0, and I installed it with No
> > Firewall.
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>Quoting "Michael L. Edwards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>I network booted the computers using the BIOS
> settings,
> > so
> > > > I am
> > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>sure
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>what
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>your problem might be.  If you are working from a
> > fresh
> > > > install
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>RH
> > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>9.0
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>you
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>might check and make sure that the firewall settings
> > are
> > > > "No
> > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>Firewall"
> > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>or
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>if
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>you need a firewall for the box that it is letting
> the
> > > > > > services
> > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>through
> > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>that
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>Oscar uses (I know it uses ssh and rsync, there may
> be
> > > > others).
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > When
> > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>I
> > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>had
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>a
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>wierd problem with nodes not spawning, I had the
> > firewall
> > > > on
> > > > > > > > "High"
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>which
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>was
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>blocking the packets from getting in.
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>Date: Friday, January 30, 2004 9:58 am
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>Hey guys,
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>Ok, here is the error message I am now getting,
> when
> > I
> > > > attempt
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>install the
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>clients by booting to the autoinstall diskette:
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>..
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>usr/lib/locale/tr_TR.utf8/LC_NUMERIC =>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>usr/lib/locale/ar_SA.utf8.LC_NUMERICwrote 418333
> bytes
> > 
> > > > read
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>553379293 bytes 1490706.93 bytes/sec
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>total size is 687633852 speedup is 1.24
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>rsync -av --numeric-ids
> > > > 192.168.0.10::overrides/oscarimage/
> > > > > > /a/
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>receiving file list ... done
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>./
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>wrote 101 bytes  read 56 bytes 7.66 bytes/sec
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>total size is 0  speedup is 0.00
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>Illegal instruction
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>Let me know if you need to know any of the
> preceding
> > > > output,
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>diagnose.  It
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>looks like a whole bunch of files being copied from
> > the
> > > > server
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>the client.
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>Thanks,
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>Danny
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>----------------------------------------
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>This mail sent through www.mywaterloo.ca
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>----------------------------------------
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>This mail sent through www.mywaterloo.ca
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >
> >>>>>>>-------------------------------------------------------
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> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>_______________________________________________
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> > > > > > > > >
> > >>>>>>>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oscar-users
> > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>----------------------------------------
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>This mail sent through www.mywaterloo.ca
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >
> >>>>>>-------------------------------------------------------
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> > > > Anaheim,
> > > > > > CA.
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> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>_______________________________________________
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> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > > > >
> >>>>>>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oscar-users
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >
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> > > > Anaheim,
> > > > > > CA.
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> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>_______________________________________________
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> > > > > > > > >
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