Hi Boh.... On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 6:55 PM, Boh Yap <bhy...@gmail.com> wrote:
> hi, > > one more thing I'll like to add, FLOSS, OSS gives us access to the > source, with whatever restrictions or lack of. Thats a good thing (w/o > going into the philosophy of it, that has been well expressed ..) and > the major advantage of it being the "..standing on shoulders of > giants" effect, we don't have to reinevnt wheels, we can take some > exsitging SW and enhance and add onto it. > > BUT, and this is something that seems to be lost especially among some > Malaysian FLOSS users and advocates, it FLOSS involves not just TAKING > but also GIVING! > > Those that have taken some SW and modified/added to it should > contribute it back, but sadly ... > > This came out even during the MyGOSSCON conf. lately, and I shall name > names(!)... > The MOH Cube (a sort of collobarative tool with email, wesites, forums > etc... for/by the Min of Health) team/speaker, when asked if they are > willing to release what they have done as OSS gave a rather evasive > answer... I also spoke to the USM, Medical IT team wo had a booth > there, ppl, who was working on modifying CARE2X, a FOSS HIS (Hospital > Info System) the same question and again an equally evasive answer... > > Seeing that in these 2 cases, the SW was developed via taxpayers > money, should'nt there be a policy that they shld be released as OSS? > After all thats how VistA (http://worldvista.org/) a well known OSS > Health Records and HIS, came about. It was developed by the Min. of > Defense under their Veterans Affairs dept. > > Eric, maybe MAMPU should fight for this, - if some 'dumb' and immoral > govt like the USA can do it, surely we can do better! > > The US Govt may be dumb but it ain't stupid. MAMPU can't do anything coz it can't mandate any other agencies to do anything. It's a very load paper tiger, but paper tiger is all it is! > PS I am partially guilty... > > I am working on an LIS (Lab Management Info System) tool a large gov > Hematology Lab, using entirely OSS tools. I INTEND to OSS it, but have > not done so yet. SW is still underdevelopment, but will do so upon > implementation of Phase1. > > > On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 12:26 PM, red1 <r...@red1.org> wrote: > > just want to add that i was in the same room as Eric when he posted > > this.. its just year-end blues.. plus pre-maternal anxiety.. nutin bad.. > :) > > > > On 12/16/09 5:44 PM, Eric Yeoh wrote: > >> Thank you for pointing this out. > >> > >> Sadly the Malaysian Government is in self-denial, insisting that FLOSS > >> will lose its copyright and control over any software output from > >> them, hence to satisfy the stupidity and shallowness of some > >> bureaucrats, they prefer to call it OSS. In a sense, they distort > >> reality to fit in their myopic view of the universe. > >> > >> I will always want to call it Open Source when dealing with > >> Enterprises because Free/Libre OSS is just a mouthful. Plus, Free in > >> this case of the English Language implies no cost. And we are brought > >> up to think what is free must have some strings attached, be it > >> inferior quality or just rubbish. > >> > >> So Open Source is a more "business-friendly" terms, especially among > >> the suites. > >> > >> I will of course respect the work done by RMS, no contest there. > >> However, he can be the most impossible and pig-headed person one can > >> heave the displeasure of meeting. The so-called Freedom-Hating Open > >> Source group has better (not by much) soft skills. So, many just > >> refuse to accept RMS, not because his views are not practical but > >> because he has stepped on way too many toes. > >> > >> Sorry, bad day in office...end of rant... > >> > >> Eric > > > > -- > > Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ > > > > Facebook Fan page > > > > http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 > > > > http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > > Groups "OSDC.my Mailing List" group. > > To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<osdcmy-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en > > > > -- > #------- > regds, > > Boh Heong, Yap > > -- > Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ > > Facebook Fan page > > http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 > > http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups "OSDC.my Mailing List" group. > To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<osdcmy-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en > -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "OSDC.my Mailing List" group. 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