hi raja, sorry didn't quite understand what you saying... but if you need help with python related stuff you're always welcome.
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Raja Iskandar Shah <rajaiskand...@gmail.com> wrote: > boh, i might (this is still a long shot) have python in our ida2 for the > textual analysis engine ;-) current engine developed by malaysian. now at > early negotiation stage to employ the guy. > > the guy also has a working prototype for image analysis ;-) for now it is > for recognising the species of a plant. > > if it works out, we will also open source the code. > > > > > On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 4:01 AM, Boh Yap <bhy...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> hi, >> >> PHP... I don't use it, so can't say.. >> >> Python: >> >> runs on more platforms than Java! >> (Symbian/mobiles all the way to Cray supercomputers) >> >> Wide application range, not just web-programming, can do systems >> programming, network programming, write server apps, entreprise apps, >> even low level hacking >> >> Is readable, I don't look at my code later and say "..what the h... >> was I trying to do here?". Also means you need less docs. >> >> Multi paradigm, I don't have to do OOP if I don't want to. >> Can code it in procedural style (C...), functional, etc... >> >> Excellent tools for working with a wide range of databases, and very >> transparent to switch. >> >> Wide range of libraries and frameworks, e.g. Python has >30 web >> frameworks!? >> >> Easy to learn, relatively experianced programmers can be writing real >> production code in 2-3 weeks. (Eric Raymond learnt it in a few hrs. >> >> http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/3882!). >> >> Read this artcl, probably one of the best I've come across in support >> of Python form a real hacker! >> >> Python fits your brain! Its relatively compact, I can write Python >> code w/o having to refer to a manual all the time. Translating from >> concepts/ideas to algorithms to code is frictionless, the language >> doesn't get in the way... >> >> All that leads to programmer productivity, I do more with Python, with >> less time, and often far less code. >> >> Its a modern language, supporting all whizbang features you may >> (never) need. Its got closures, continuations, generators.... and its >> got very good introspection. There's even a version (Stackless Python) >> that will allow for high-concurrency. >> >> Even w/o the above, Python scales well... Zope, the grand -daddy of >> Python frameworks is entreprise class and has many such apps. So are >> many of the frameworks, Django was initially developed for a large >> online newspaper.. >> Twisted a framework that is event-based rather than thread-based, can >> also handle heavy loads. >> >> Its lightweight, I can run multiple Python servers on a low end >> machine, it doesn't chew up a lot of resources. >> >> Scaling: Stackless Python allows 1,000's of micro-threads on a normal >> single CPU, and an efficient message passing mechanism.. and its being >> used for a successful graphics intensive MPOG, multi-player online >> game, supporting 3,000+ simultaneous users. (www.eveonline.com) >> >> ...I better stop here... ;-) >> >> and lastly, Python programmers are always happy.... (see attached image) >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 5:06 PM, CL Chow <klrkdek...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > Directly to php no, but i did contribute in some framework development >> > ;) >> > >> > Regards, >> > CL Chow >> > "Please do not send me Microsoft Office/Apple iWork documents. Send >> > OpenDocument instead! http://fsf.org/campaigns/opendocument/"; >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 5:01 PM, nuhaa <cawan.nu...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> thanks alot for feedback - keep it coming please >> >> forgot to note previously - contributions will be properly credited in >> >> the >> >> report :) >> >> i myself have always been a php developer - i;ve seen python here and >> >> there and yea i like that it's readable and can do more than just web >> >> app >> >> has anyone contributed back to php / python here? >> >> >> >> thx >> >> >> >> Nuhaa All Bakry / cawanpink >> >> http://cawanpink.net >> >> http://fosschix.my >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 4:14 PM, Hasan Abu Bakar <ha...@kelate.com.my> >> >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> I believe you are not looking for general benchmark? Aren't you? >> >>> because there are tonnes of benchmark or research already done by >> >>> bloggers http://www.google.com.my/search?q=php+vs+python+benchmark >> >>> >> >>> btw, as my personal preference and research >> >>> >> >>> - speed >> >>> python saves a lot time to write codes than php, less bloated classes, >> >>> in term of my "speed". >> >>> >> >>> - scalability >> >>> for web frameworks, Django+nginx+uwsgi+SQLite only consumes about 5MB >> >>> RAM but symfony+nginx+fcgi+SQLite eats up to 50MB! and I did do a test >> >>> on a machine with 32MB RAM and 266Mhz cpu, Django works just well. >> >>> >> >>> - syntax >> >>> for sure python is cleaner and easier to understand. Less "syntax >> >>> error" when you missed a semicolon etc... But it's a pain if you have >> >>> bad indentation habit. >> >>> >> >>> - choice of language >> >>> you do know when you should use php or python for your projects. I am >> >>> always use php for a simple web development and python for a simple >> >>> console or daemon application. >> >>> >> >>> - programmer >> >>> >> It seems that it is harder to find a Python programmer then a PHP >> >>> >> programmer in Msia. >> >>> It's true and it's sometimes not a big problem. Just like a people who >> >>> can speak several languages or cannot. Sometimes it's necessary to >> >>> know several languages when you meet people who can't speak you >> >>> language. So come on, learn your third language! >> >>> But the problem is the eager to learn new languages. Just like a >> >>> people who learned VB 15 years ago, still using VB because he believes >> >>> VB can do _anything_ and he don't want to waste his time by learning >> >>> new languages, therefore he can spend more time with family and >> >>> friends. But I believe writing an application in Python or PHP >> >>> sometimes take _much_ less time than VB and you can get more family >> >>> and friends. Your call. >> >>> >> >>> The most debating topic is python vs ruby btw. >> >>> Python FTW! >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Hasanuddin Abu Bakar >> >>> ------------------------------- >> >>> Ubuntu embedded developer/tester >> >>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/bizkut >> >>> >> >>> Get FireGPG for your Firefox! http://getfiregpg.org >> >>> >> >>> PGP Public Key >> >>> >> >>> http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xC5A1B11965D43C5C >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 2:32 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah >> >>> <rajaiskand...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> > my team does php. because that's what the majority of our target >> >>> > market >> >>> > uses >> >>> > and wants. >> >>> > >> >>> > second to that and rising fast is javascript. >> >>> > >> >>> > but as sweemeng points out, python is an attractive language and >> >>> > perhaps an >> >>> > easier option compared to java for us to go into web, desktop and >> >>> > mobile >> >>> > platforms. >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 2:03 PM, Adzmely Mansor <adzm...@gmail.com> >> >>> > wrote: >> >>> >> >> >>> >> update version of my previous link: >> >>> >> http://wiki.w4py.org/python-vs-php.html >> >>> >> >> >>> >> On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 1:16 PM, Adzmely Mansor <adzm...@gmail.com> >> >>> >> wrote: >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> http://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonVsPhp >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 11:23 AM, nuhaa <cawan.nu...@gmail.com> >> >>> >>> wrote: >> >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> hola guys, >> >>> >>>> php vs python? yeapp this going to be interesting >> >>> >>>> php and python hardcores pls put in ur input - we're interested >> >>> >>>> to >> >>> >>>> see >> >>> >>>> how the battle goes muahahahahaha >> >>> >>>> OSCC is doing a benchmark on those 2 .. things we're looking at: >> >>> >>>> - scalability >> >>> >>>> - namespace >> >>> >>>> - speed >> >>> >>>> - syntax >> >>> >>>> - .. put ur input here .. >> >>> >>>> of course we're not looking 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