So in conclusion to what i am saying :

PHP is ugly because its trying to do what it was not designed for and doing that to "survive".

But PHP in web dev is undeniably simple and nice and it should be kept that way.

Hence my first posting....PHP vs Python ? Are you kidding me!



Marcus Low wrote:
Use cobol then .

C/C++ is not ugly. They have a learning curve and no way should it be associated with PHP. C/C++ is the mother of all the popular languages you know today and what did you think PHP, python interpreter, linux, windows, OSX is written in?

The badminton racket is not a correct analogy for one reason, both the wood racket and the iron racket is designed to do only one thing. Languages on the other hand are different. C/C++/Java/C# these languages are used to be general and able to grow far and wide due to the language design. PHP is conceived with the intention of doing web pages apps and it can never grow out of that main design without being ugly just
like how Basic was designed to be a learning language.

SQL is also arguable a programming language but designed for database, if you want to do SQL capabilities with C/C++/Java/Python/PHP u can see how different and it is (LINQ ?). Or try adding in SQL capabilities to do socket programming and Web apps and you can see how ugly it can get.

Back to the badminton, the correct analogy would be : You use the correct racket in the badminton court. Pass LCW a ping pong bat and i can tell you
i have good chances to trouce him.

- cheers


Harisfazillah Jamel wrote:
Amran +100000

Hehehe.

Its all depend on the programmer. If he or she good and know what he or she want
any programming language suitable for him or her.

Programming is an art.

On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 12:36 AM, Ahmad Amran <r0k...@gmail.com> wrote:
I think if someone saying PHP is ugly is like saying C and C++ is also ugly.
If they all ugly siblings and C is no 1, C++ no 3 and PHP no 4 this month on
Tiobe index.
 http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html.  I think
i dont mind being ugly:p. (luckily I'm quite handsome. Hahah). Anyway this
argument is quite useless. It's like badminton , if I'm using 500 rm racket
and LCW using rm 50 racket and we play single , everybody will know the
result;). It's not the language, but the programmer to make the apps an
art.
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