Tak payah kat western, kalau kat sini pun dah kandas.. He he..
Takpelah pun.. Ketiga-tiga nama tupun dah tak de kat situ.. Haha..
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-----Original Message-----
From: Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte <msiantuxlo...@gmail.com>
Sender: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 00:33:49 
To: <osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com>
Reply-To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [osdcmy] Wassup With OSCC ?

Not many people agree with you Tajul.

If not enough about OSCC is written by some Mat Salleh in some Western
journal or website depa kira OSCC dah kandas.

Eric


On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 12:31 AM,  <ta...@sabily.my> wrote:
> Banyak jasa OSCC dalam kerajaan sebenarnya.
> Dari zaman DRB IT, sampai Dataware yang mana di dalamnya ada hadir sama 
> Saudara HarisFazillah, Mr Eric, Khairul Izzat dan yang lainnya (maaf x sebut 
> semua), banyak impak dan perubahan telah berlaku dalam kerajaan.
> Kita dah ada MySpamguard, Mysurfguard, MyMeeting..
> Pelajar dah tau guna OpenOffice, Ubuntu.. GIMP
> Kerajaan dah banyak guna Joomla!, Ubuntu Server dan CentOS.. Semua tu di era 
> syarikat yang bernanung di bawah OSCC dan saya rasa Dataware paling berjaya 
> setakat ini. Satu kerugian kalau x teruskan legasi ini.
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte <msiantuxlo...@gmail.com>
> Sender: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com
> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 00:24:55
> To: <osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com>
> Reply-To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [osdcmy] Wassup With OSCC ?
>
> I disagree. It was not a way to spend Govt money but a way for someone
> to get promoted to Jusa.
>
> Measuring significance in the global scale, OSCC didn't make much of a
> presence. But at least there is some events on FOSS now like
> MyGOSSCON.
>
> Eric
>
> On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 7:53 PM, Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan
> <sharuzza...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> This kind of situation is common.
>>
>> The company that will get the tender will be a company that is not even
>> known as an Open Source supporter or contributor.
>>
>> As long as they are big and got lots of money, they will get it.
>>
>> I'm not surprised in the end OSCC is nothing but just another way to spend
>> government money. Nothing really significant was achieved.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 10:20 AM, Raja Iskandar Shah
>> <rajaiskand...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> on the topic of oss at tadika, this is fairly easy to approach :
>>> fimos can approach datin sri rosmah mansor
>>> a child friendly remix (like the icon based ubuntu netbook remix) with
>>> touch-screen monitors would probably work - along with a 'reliable hardware
>>> and software'. i foresee the other main competitor would be terengganu's
>>> ebook and the biggest other challenge are the content providers providing
>>> only for m$ windows platform.
>>>
>>> on the original topic of this thread .... ehem... ehem....
>>> i am hearing news that hitech padu will be involved in oscc and openhis.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 9:45 AM, <ta...@sabily.my> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Kita memang tengah berusaha ke arah tukan soire meira.
>>>> Projek jawi kita, kita boleh try implement bermula dari tadika.
>>>> Kerjasama kita dengan UKM kita perlu fikirkan sebab dorang dah minta
>>>> untuk buat perbincangan dengan kita.
>>>> Bila ye, nak buat?..
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>________________________________
>>>> From: Soire Meira <soire...@gmail.com>
>>>> Sender: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com
>>>> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 09:38:33 +0800
>>>> To: <osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com>
>>>> ReplyTo: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [osdcmy] Wassup With OSCC ?
>>>> Paperwork plz.. but i will try.. insyaallah!
>>>>
>>>> 2011/3/16 Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini <jipangmenje...@gmail.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> sekarang isunya macam mana nak ajukan benda ni untuk direalisasikan.
>>>>> sekadar menaip di mailinglist tak guna juga.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 11:05 PM, Soire Meira <soire...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> guru2 + pengasuh hanya perlu asas sahaja utk ajar kanak2 ni membuka
>>>>>> serta belajar asas (aplikasi game+eduction dlm linux kn bnyk). jika 
>>>>>> bantahan
>>>>>> dr ibubpa high-class adalah kemungkinan besar.. so try at kampung @ tmpt
>>>>>> taraf hidup sederhana or below. so tntu mereka akn trima.. dr ctu akn 
>>>>>> lahir
>>>>>> anak yg bijak pandai .. walaupun nmpk mcm xberkesan.. tp ni utk 10 thn 
>>>>>> punya
>>>>>> target! siapa sangka Malaysia juga mampu melahirkn Jutawan Muda lbh baik 
>>>>>> dr
>>>>>> Mark Zuckerberg..
>>>>>> p/s: Hack to Learn, Not Learn to Hack
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2011/3/15 Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte <msiantuxlo...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Satu cadangan yang menarik.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tapi guru2 dan pengasuh2 tadika mesti mempunyai kemahiran asas FOSS
>>>>>>> sebelum mengajar anak2. Kemungkinan besar bantahan dari ibubapa yang
>>>>>>> berpendapat perisian Mac atau mikrolembut lebih berguna daripada
>>>>>>> perisian percuma "berkualiti rendah".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 9:49 PM, Soire Meira <soire...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> > Apa kata klu dimulakn dari TADIKA.. so ada generasi baru.. he3..
>>>>>>> > skadar
>>>>>>> > cadangan ja
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > 2011/3/15 Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte <msiantuxlo...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Other training providers actually hated OSCC's guts; since we used
>>>>>>> >> to
>>>>>>> >> provide free FOSS training to GOMEN and since GOMEN is the largest
>>>>>>> >> consumer of IT products and services...you can imagine how much
>>>>>>> >> other
>>>>>>> >> providers hated us.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> OSCC kept the trainings free of charge to encourage the agencies to
>>>>>>> >> send their staff to be trained. This presented a challenge since
>>>>>>> >> one
>>>>>>> >> of the objectives of the Master Plan was to encourage the growth of
>>>>>>> >> the Malaysian FOSS industry. As we were already giving out free
>>>>>>> >> trainings we were basically killing the training providers' efforts
>>>>>>> >> to
>>>>>>> >> provide FOSS programmes. To "even" up and to avoid to further
>>>>>>> >> antagonising the training providers, we limited the trainings to
>>>>>>> >> Grades F and FT only.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> You can ask for training if several schools combined and ask for
>>>>>>> >> it. I
>>>>>>> >> approved several such applications when I was there.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Eric
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 10:55 AM,  <ta...@sabily.my> wrote:
>>>>>>> >> > Ye ke sifoo? Ke tinggal nama.
>>>>>>> >> > One thing la kalau boleh tukar sikit polisi. Training on OSS
>>>>>>> >> > bukan dalam
>>>>>>> >> > lingkungan IT officer, because sometime IT officer yang menolak
>>>>>>> >> > OSS
>>>>>>> >> > adoption. Maybe kene open untuk skim perjawatan yang lain,
>>>>>>> >> > contohnya DG
>>>>>>> >> > (cikgu). Sebab kita lihat pattern di organisasi kerajaan, DG
>>>>>>> >> > (cikgu) juga
>>>>>>> >> > ada fighter untuk OSS.
>>>>>>> >> > Sorry, I have no number again..
>>>>>>> >> > Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device via Vodafone-Celcom
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>>>>>>> >> > -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> >> > From: Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte <msiantuxlo...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> >> > Sender: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>> >> > Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 10:51:19
>>>>>>> >> > To: <osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>>> >> > Reply-To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>> >> > Subject: Re: [osdcmy] Wassup With OSCC ?
>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>> >> > OSCC exists on paper only now.
>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>> >> > Eric
>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>> >> > On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 6:49 PM, Garfield WTF
>>>>>>> >> > <garfi...@debmal.my>
>>>>>>> >> > wrote:
>>>>>>> >> >> @Harisfazillah
>>>>>>> >> >> I believe the current OSCC now, need more capable people to get
>>>>>>> >> >> the
>>>>>>> >> >> jobs
>>>>>>> >> >> done nicely.
>>>>>>> >> >> Since you & Eric leave OSCC, it seems like not much capable ppl
>>>>>>> >> >> left at
>>>>>>> >> >> there.
>>>>>>> >> >> Those who are capable to do work, seems like they are too
>>>>>>> >> >> overload,
>>>>>>> >> >> until
>>>>>>> >> >> ==> cat /proc/loadavg ==> 150.00 80.00 70.00 <== WAH!!!
>>>>>>> >> >> If continue like this, I think those ppl will also leave soon...
>>>>>>> >> >>
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