-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Claus Wahlers wrote: > Wow that's great news. Not. > > I went and searched for trademarks in the Adobe and Macromedia sites, > and found nothing at first. The Adobe Trademark Database [1] doesn't > contain anything related to "Flash". On the Macromedia site i found a > lost mention [2] that Flash is a trademark of Macromedia Inc though.
Hi Claus, Not sure what search terms you used for the Macromedia site. For me, "trademarks" got better results on the MM site than "trademark". Anyway, as of a few minutes ago, the MM site has the info at: http://www.macromedia.com/help/copyright.html Part of it (about 80% of the way through) reads: ***************************** Copyright and Trademark Information COPYRIGHT NOTICE: Copyright © 2005 Adobe Systems Incorporated. All rights reserved. TRADEMARKS: Please see the Trademark Usage Guidelines for a complete list of trademarks; ***************************** The above words "Trademark Usage Guidelines" are a hyperlink to this page on the Adobe site: http://www.adobe.com/misc/permissions.html On the left hand side of this page is a link to "List of Adobe's trademarks" in PDF format. The link (as of a few minutes ago) is: http://www.adobe.com/misc/pdfs/USGenExtTMdb_winter05.pdf This has links to an agreement form outlining various things: http://www.adobe.com/misc/agreement.html (not all that relevant to this discussion) ... plus a "complete list of trademarks" (as indicated by the MM site), and also links to this page: http://www.adobe.com/misc/trademarks.html Which gives a list of various trademarks and their owners (generally not Adobes'). (Probably products they've referenced through the Adobe site.) Anyway, in the above "USGenExtTMdb_winter05" PDF, there is a section called "Former Macromedia Trademarks". Listed under that is: Flash® (and many others). "SWF" isn't listed, so that's potentially the direction for people to take. As a thought, I wonder if it would be practical for places using "Flash" in their product/site names to request for a perpetual/non-restrictive license to continue using the name or some such? That may allow usage but still take enforcement action against future abusers. Hope this helps. Regards and best wishes, Justin Clift > [1] http://www.adobe.com/misc/trade.html > [2] http://www.macromedia.com/macromedia/style_guide/logos/flashplayer/ > > By the way, dear Adobe, quite a while back you promised on this list > to clarify your general position regarding some Flash related open > source projects. Any news? > cheers, > claus. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFESRcKFAuZn5lS2IMRArUIAJ4qn/EGO8QJPMq+NEJQ1t2Cmqj+ugCZAaNK DEvjVlckoXc7Hq7OVMs6ELI= =cQzp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ osflash mailing list [email protected] http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/osflash_osflash.org
