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> From: "Moazzam Khan" <[email protected]>
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> Just to be fair, developers need to make money too. So, they sell the
> software they make. It's great that there are people who want to put
> their work out there for others to improve and use without paying
> anything. But, I don't think there is anything wrong with charging for
> your software. It just like any other profession. You don't always see
> a carpenter giving away free wood chairs, or a watch maker giving out
> free watches. It's good that people are charitable and generous but
> they have to make a living too :).
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> If money was absent in the equation, then you would have the barter
> system. It would still lead to the same result. I am not sure if a
> society that has everything for free can survive for long. You get
> everything you want, why work? Very few would even want to excel
> because their excelling at something won't have a direct impact on
> their lives (except some pats on the back). I don't mean to say that
> people won't be passionate about anything but they will probably not
> be enough for a society to exist in a stable form.
>
> - Moazzam
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> On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 3:27 PM, Infos E-Blokos <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Rost,
> >
> > in Open Source community there are a lot of people who dream of a new
> world
> > without profit. I agree at 100% to this ideology, unless they forgot that
> > it's impossible in the real world
> > as long as money and lobbies will exist....
> > two very good movies done by Peter Joseph on this subject
> > http://www.zeitgeist.com
> > even if the souces of the film are not available, it's free to download.
> >
> > Franck
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Rostislav Siryk
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> > Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 3:14 PM
> > Subject: Re: [osflash] new free HD Player
> >>> I'll stop definetly to talk about my work here.
> >
> > Please don't go this way. Even rude discussion helps to see the actual
> > reality and what's going on better. Sometimes it's hard to believe that
> > there's no offense, but please don't stop posting.
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> > Rost
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> Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 12:56:59 -0000
> From: "Alias Cummins" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [osflash] new free HD Player
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> Or, you could just release your source, and then I'm sure people would
> be happy to talk about it?
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> Your call, really.
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> Alias
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> >> I'll stop definetly to talk about my work here.
>
> Please don't go this way. Even rude discussion helps to see the actual
> reality and what's going on better. Sometimes it's hard to believe that
> there's no offense, but please don't stop posting.
>
> Rost
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> Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 09:30:04 -0800
> From: Schell <[email protected]>
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> I don't mean to hijack the conversation away from HD players or flaming,
> but
> I really like this subject ;)
>
> >>I am not sure if a
> society that has everything for free can survive for long. You get
> everything you want, why work? Very few would even want to excel
> because their excelling at something won't have a direct impact on
> their lives (except some pats on the back).
>
> In my understanding of a free and open society, at least one that's based
> on
> resources as opposed to money, all the basic necessities of life are
> provided for through modular, sustainable compounds. The people that would
> work at these compounds would do so for the benefit of the community. Had
> everyone decided to space out all day every day and never contribute to
> society, the society would fail and everybody's standard of living falls.
> So
> the drive to succeed and excel would be to directly affect the quality of
> life of everyone in your community, as opposed to simply you and your
> family's lives. The barter system would hold up as a necessity, "You have
> lot's of energy but no means to produce iron? Here is some iron, we have
> too
> much. Please give us some energy, we have a deficit in that department."
> Hoarding resources as wealth hurts society as a whole in this situation
> [and
> probably does in our respective societies as well] but since there is no
> monetary value applied to such resources, hoarding is unnattractive due to
> the demurrage incurred. Resources tend to degrade as they sit unused,
> making
> them less valuable. I think the real problem or downside is that these
> systems are really vulnerable to violence, warlords, etc. There's no budget
> for a military here and it seems likely that outside forces would be very
> interested in your resources. But I think humans are smart enough to work
> out a successful system, we'd just need to dedicate some time to it, but
> who
> has time? I don't.
>
> --
> Schell Scivally
> http://blog.efnx.com
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