I am completely agree with Juan Delgado and Juan Pablo said. I think Adobe has a friendly relationship with the open source. I am a pragmatist, I'd like the open source and I prefer it, but if there isn't the open source software out there to cover your technological needs you have to move to propietary software or make your own and most of the time the second option is a whole big project by itself.
Another unfortunately fact about not using AS2 is that some platforms still using it, flash lite for example or some built in web browsers on some devices. Honestly the reason because I used AS3 is because I like the language and the platform and I feel comfortable with it. It evolved in a very serious and productive language in comparision with its previous version. Like Alias said there are some good reasons to use it yet. But I was thinking on flash game developers for PC browsers when I started the project. Martin. 2009/3/20 Juan Delgado <[email protected]> > Even if I agree with your rant, Strk has only made a comment about > supporting AS2 because the fact Gnash only supports that. He hasn't > blamed anybody of or went all Stallman-ish about anyting. Still you > come out with a huge rant, which I might or might not agree with, but > I think it was out of place. > > As he also points out, this is list is about Open Source Flash, so > asking if there's support for Open Source players is not an OT > question by any means. > > I'd personally love an Open Source Flash player, but I reckon many > people don't (fragmentation, bla, bla). I think Adobe has a good > balance between Open and Propietary, so can't complain much. I thank > them everyday for putting up a platform that I use to pay my bills > every month. > > But I also thank all the Open Source movement and people like Stallman > because they've done A LOT for the industry as we know it today. > > Cheers! > > Juan > > 2009/3/19 Glen Pike <[email protected]>: > > "Adobe's Flash player is not free in the "freedom" meaning > > of the word. A free-as-in-freedom software should be able > > to run on a free-as-in-freedom platoform." > > > > So what if FP is not open source. It still works on many flavours of > Linux > > and a generally works out of the box a lot better than an awful lot of > open > > source software. It was easy to install - I downloaded the binary and > did > > not have to spend hours compiling and resolving dependency issues left > right > > and centre unlike my latest Lamp upgrade on Gentoo or my SVN setup on > > Ubuntu. Admittedly, there are a few issues with 64 bit and the myriad of > > Linux flavours, but these are being worked on... > > > > Adobe's FP on our Linux boxes at work was the only player I could get > > working properly with the requirement of our projects - and that was with > > AS1 / AS2 code. Admittedly, I am not a sysadmin guru, but I prefer decent > > doc's and help over obscure chatrooms and mailing lists any time and like > to > > get on with the work of creating nice Flash things rather than fanny > around > > all day with software that does not work out of the box. Saying that, > the > > install/update process for Linux distro's is getting better and the > Ubuntu > > support infrastructure is a great example of OS goodness, so kudos to the > > developers who are working on improving all this stuff. > > > > But... Strk's point highlights a big problem I keep encountering with OS > > software including Linux - too much hair splitting and not enough GTD. > If > > people want an open source flash player, they should stop moaning about > x, y > > & z and write one. Or bite the bullet and use the one that's free - in > > monetary terms. I know which path I would take from a time=money > > perspective. I am not saying that Open Source is a bad thing - I think > it's > > great and I try/hope to contribute in various ways to the system, but I > also > > have to do my job, be efficient and help my company & me earn money / put > > food on the table. At the end of my day, if there is spare time, I will > > often try and give something back somewhere, but I can't look the gift > horse > > in the mouth for too long, hence my choice to use Flash. > > > > Adobe's FP may be restricted by a license, but how many times do you > > actually read a license when you install the software? How many end > users > > actually give a toss about the license? Do you really think Adobe are > going > > to pull the plug on all these people because they are flouting their > rules > > in principle? I think that would be a very bad business move from > anyone's > > perspective. Fair enough, if someone is making loads of money out of > their > > product without licensing it properly, but then people doing that > probably > > have the resources to write their own player. > > > > Besides, AS3 has been out for ages, so how come Gnash does not support it > > yet :) > > > > And believe me, I would switch from Windows in a second if I could get > > PhotoShop, Flash & Cool Edit working on Linux because I hate Gimp & > Audacity > > and I don't believe there is a Flash IDE equivalent for Linux yet, but I > > maybe wrong. > > > > Sorry to rant, I don't mean to be offensive, but I am passionate about > Flash > > and even though the player is not Open Source, there is a ton of OS stuff > > going on around it which is good. > > > > Glen > > -- > > > > Glen Pike > > 01326 218440 > > www.glenpike.co.uk > > > > _______________________________________________ > > osflash mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/osflash_osflash.org > > > > > > > > -- > Juan Delgado - Zárate > http://zarate.tv > http://blog.zarate.tv > > _______________________________________________ > osflash mailing list > [email protected] > http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/osflash_osflash.org >
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