Ah cool. Is there a free-tier cloud offering powerful enough to install OSGeo-Live? Is there enough interest to justify writing a quickstart on how to do this and have the quickstart included in OSGeoLive docs? If so, one of the Good Docs Writers might be tempted to write up a Quickstart. +Nelson Guya <nelsonkiman...@gmail.com> ?
On Wed, 9 Feb 2022 at 04:07, Angelos Tzotsos <gcpp.kal...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Cameron, > > Running OSGeoLive on the cloud is trivial and is already offered by > commercial cloud providers (e.g. I have seen it in CreoDIAS which is > based on OpenStack) > https://creodias.eu/-/how-to-get-access-to-gui-on-vm-with-osgeolive-image- > > Best, > Angelos > > On 2/7/22 20:43, Cameron Shorter wrote: > > Something which is getting more-and-more feasible every year is to run > > OSGeo-Live as a virtual machine in the cloud. > > We actually managed to do this back in 2009 > > < > http://cameronshorter.blogspot.com/2009/10/try-open-source-geospatial-desktop.html > >, > > but the partners working on it got stuck in the following release. > > Someone might want to take another look at this approach? > > > > On Tue, 8 Feb 2022 at 01:47, James Klassen <jklas...@sharedgeo.org> > wrote: > > > >> There was discussion awhile back about supporting ARM for Raspberry Pi > and > >> similar SBCs that came to the same conclusion that it would take more > >> developer resources that were available. > >> > >> OSGeo Live is meant to “just work” to encourage new users explore the > >> software without having to first face the learning curve of getting it > >> installed and configured correctly. That is a lot more difficult to > >> accomplish when users face to face the variations inherent in running > >> different architectures. > >> > >> Most, but not all of the packages that go into OSGeo Live are available > on > >> ARM (are in Ubuntu-GIS and Debian-GIS or are platform agnostic and > install > >> the same files as on x86). So, technically it isn’t too far fetched. > But, > >> if I remember correctly, pain points are testing and documentation. I’d > >> venture a guess that, by far, nearly all of the developer time on OSGeo > >> Live is spent on testing and documentation. > >> > >> Another issue with ARM is that while the user space is the same/similar > >> across ARM devices, a bootable image (like we do with x86) would have > to be > >> tailored to each device. Maybe there would be a way to just provide a > user > >> space and have the user provide the matching version of Ubuntu for their > >> machine. Maybe the whole thing could be built into a snap or flatpak or > >> appimage. It would still be a different experience than we’ve > >> traditionally had for x86 which raises documentation and ease of use > >> concerns. > >> > >> > >> I’m also a bit surprised the M1 Macs can’t run x86 OSes in emulation. > >> There were programs that emulated a PC to allow 68k and PowerPC era > Macs > >> to run DOS/Windows. > >> > >> On Sat, Feb 5, 2022 at 04:06 Angelos Tzotsos <gcpp.kal...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> Dear Barend, > >>> > >>> We do not have an ARM version. This would require more developer > >>> resources than we currently have, so there is currently no plan to > >>> support this architecture. > >>> > >>> Best, > >>> Angelos > >>> > >>> On 2/2/22 01:24, Kobben, Barend (UT-ITC) wrote: > >>>> For installation in the Parallels virtual machine on a new MacPro > >>> (running on the Apple silicon architecture), an ARM version instead of > an > >>> Intel version is needed. Is that available, or will in be...? Or are > there > >>> alternative ways to get it running on a Mac M1...? > >>>> -- > >>>> Barend Köbben > >>>> Senior Lecturer – ITC-GIP & ATLAS, University Twente > >>>> PO Box 217, 7500 AE Enschede (The Netherlands) > >>>> +31-(0)53 4874 253 / room 1-065 ITC > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> osgeolive mailing list > >>>> osgeolive@lists.osgeo.org > >>>> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/osgeolive > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Angelos Tzotsos, PhD > >>> President > >>> Open Source Geospatial Foundation > >>> http://users.ntua.gr/tzotsos > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> osgeolive mailing list > >>> osgeolive@lists.osgeo.org > >>> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/osgeolive > >>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> osgeolive mailing list > >> osgeolive@lists.osgeo.org > >> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/osgeolive > >> > > > > > -- > Angelos Tzotsos, PhD > President > Open Source Geospatial Foundation > http://users.ntua.gr/tzotsos > > -- Cameron Shorter Technical Writer, Google
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