Hi Christian,

If you think it makes sense to standardize something like this, I can
work with you on getting an OSGi RFP started on this topic. Once there
is some initial content, we can put it on
https://github.com/osgi/design for further feedback.

Cheers,

David

On 9 October 2013 10:43, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Christian,
>
> as blueprint is part of OSGi specification, it makes sense to be introduce a
> new "optional" status for bundle that use blueprint.
>
> Let see what the others think about that.
>
> Regards
> JB
>
> On 10/09/2013 11:39 AM, Christian Schneider wrote:
>>
>> Nowadays dependency injection technologies like blueprint, ds and spring
>> dm are used a lot in OSGi. All these have in common that they are
>> extender based. So instead of using an activator you have an extender
>> that detects if you use such a technology and initializes the bundle.
>>
>> Unfortunately this makes diagnosing the status of your system a lot
>> harder. A bundle can be active and still the blueprint context may have
>> failed to create or the extender is even absent. The case of no extender
>> can be nicely solved by capabilities which seem to be introduced in the
>> newest spec proposals.
>>
>> What I have not yet seen is a common status and error reporting. I have
>> written such a thing for karaf where the bundle status is combined from
>> the OSGi bundle status + e.g. the blueprint status if the bundle uses
>> blueprint. I also created a diag command that shows blueprint errors to
>> make it easier to spot problems.
>>
>> Would it make sense to standardize this? Perhaps by allowing an extender
>> to override the reported status of a bundle? I also think it would be
>> nice to have a common api to get some diagnosis state for bundles. You
>> could ask this api about a bundle id and it could return a list of
>> exceptions provided by all extenders that processed the bundle.
>>
>> I am currently working an a pax exam improvement to have an assertion
>> like this but it would be a lot nicer if the OSGi framework would
>> already provide such an API and if the DI framework could already add
>> diagnostic infos. So the pax exam assertion could then just rely on the
>> api and not care about all the technologies.
>>
>> Christian
>>
>>
>
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