So no security manager and you can still use the AccessControlContext? That 
surprises me and makes me wonder what it means? Without a security manager, I 
do not understand how the checks are done, nor how they can be enforced?

Kind regards,

        Peter Kriens



> On 1 mrt. 2016, at 00:33, Christian Schneider <ch...@die-schneider.net> wrote:
> 
> I will have to look into Conditional Permission admin. 
> I only use JAAS to do the authentication and make the AccesControlContext 
> available on the thread via:
> AccessControlContext acc = AccessController.getContext()
> The nice thing is that this allows other parts of the code to do 
> authorization decisions without being coupled to any special security library.
> I do not use the SecurityManager.
> The JAAS approach is already used in many places. For example the karaf web 
> console populates the AccessControlContext  on the web console and the 
> console. Karaf also checks the authorization of commands executed on the 
> shell this way. CXF populates the AccessControlContext from the service 
> authentication information. Aries blueprint can do annoation based 
> authorization using @RolesAllowed.
> So a nice way to run a bundle as a certain user would play very nicely 
> together with these mechanisms. Of course you can already do a JAAS login 
> with code but it is a lot of boiler plate code.
> Christian
> 
> 
> 2016-02-29 8:42 GMT+01:00 Peter Kriens <peter.kri...@aqute.biz>:
> There is no standardized solution for this. In general, Bundle Activators are 
> called on the thread the start method is called but this is not guaranteed 
> and for DS you’er out of luck.
> 
> That said, I am a bit puzzled by the model. JAAS is based on the same 
> (terrible) security model the VM gave us. Why not use Conditional Permission 
> admin to just manage the required permission for that bundle, that you can do 
> standardized and quite easy?
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
>         Peter Kriens
> 
> > On 28 feb. 2016, at 12:09, Christian Schneider <ch...@die-schneider.net> 
> > wrote:
> >
> > When working with JAAS based authentication it is necessary to run the code 
> > as a certain subject.
> >
> > For code that is called from the outside as well as from the karaf shell 
> > there are existing solutions to do the login.
> > I wonder if there is an OSGi mechanism to do the same for code that is 
> > started inside a bundle. (Activator, blueprint or DS).
> > What I would like to have is some way to say: The startup code for this 
> > bundle should run as a certain user.
> >
> > Is this already possible or would I have to create such a mechanism myself?
> >
> > Christian
> >
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