And do you get the error at build time or when running your result?

With Tycho you typically use PDE mechanisms to resolve dependencies, not
maven dependencies.

And what is your result? A plain OSGi application or a RCP application?

Greez,
Dirk

Dirk Fauth <dirk.fa...@gmail.com> schrieb am Fr., 3. Jan. 2020, 14:37:

> Hi,
>
> If you are using Tycho, which repository are you using for dependency
> resolution? Or do you build using a target definition? If so, which eclipse
> software site have you configured?
>
> Greez,
> Dirk
>
> Martin Petzold via osgi-dev <osgi-dev@mail.osgi.org> schrieb am Fr., 3.
> Jan. 2020, 14:20:
>
>> Dear Neil,
>>
>> thanks, but now we start again at the beginning at my first message
>> (endless loop): I cannot set a dependency to "org.osgi:osgi.core" in Maven
>> (with Tycho) because it requires 'osgi.unresolvable;
>> (&(!(must.not.resolve=*))(must.not.resolve=*))'.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Martin
>> Am 03.01.20 um 14:12 schrieb Neil Bartlett:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 3 Jan 2020 at 13:08, Martin Petzold via osgi-dev <
>> osgi-dev@mail.osgi.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Okay, thanks. This is clear now.
>>>
>>> However, Ray told me to set the dependency for "org.eclipse.osgi" to
>>> "runtime" scope. But how can my implementation then depend on
>>> "org.osgi.framework" package during compile time? Either there is a
>>> separate API bundle from OSGi Alliance containing "org.osgi.framework"
>>> (which one is it?)
>>>
>>
>> Yes, this is the org.osgi:osgi.core dependency. That contains the pure
>> api and no implementation, whereas org.eclipse.osgi is an implementation.
>>
>> Or you could just use org.eclipse.osgi at both compile time and runtime,
>> but then you should be careful to avoid using equinox internal packages.
>>
>> or I should set the scope to compile instead of runtime?
>>>
>>> I am using the BundleContext and need access to this package.
>>>
>>> Thanks and kind regards,
>>>
>>> Martin
>>> Am 03.01.20 um 10:51 schrieb Mark Hoffmann via osgi-dev:
>>>
>>> Hi Martin,
>>>
>>> see comments inline.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Mark
>>> Am 02.01.20 um 19:19 schrieb Martin Petzold via osgi-dev:
>>>
>>> Thanks, Raymond! Does this also relate to "org.osgi:osgi.cmpn"? Should I
>>> remove this dependency too? Should I add "org.eclipse.osgi.services" or the
>>> individual "org.osgi.service.*" to my (parent) POM? Are the individual
>>> "org.osgi.service.*" also required at runtime (on classpath or installed to
>>> osgi?). Will "org.eclipse.osgi" start without "org.eclipse.osgi.services"
>>> on the classpath or installation as bundle?
>>>
>>> You have to distinguish between the packages you want to resolve and the
>>> artifacts/bundles that contain the the packages/implementations.
>>>
>>> In your case org.eclipse.osgi.services is the bundle that exports the
>>> packages org.osgi.service.* packages.
>>>
>>> Because Maven just resolves artifacts, you need to provide the bundle
>>> org.eclipse.osgi.services as dependency.
>>>
>>> Yes, org.eclipse.osgi will start without org.eclipse.osgi.services
>>>
>>> I have now added "org.eclipse.osgi.services". However, it now cannot
>>> requires "org.osgi.util.promise". What should I add to my POM in order to
>>> resolve the core Eclipse OSGi implementation (only OSGi core
>>> implementation)?
>>>
>>> You should find the promises and functions in the bundle
>>> org.eclipse.osgi.util
>>>
>>> btw I have removed the runtime scope for "org.eclipse.osgi".
>>> Am 02.01.20 um 19:00 schrieb Raymond Auge:
>>>
>>> A bit of rational about why companion jars are unresolvable:
>>>
>>> The OSGi specs are to a very high degree independent from each other.
>>> There's no reason for you to be forced to use all R5 specs, or all R6 or
>>> whatever. Those are simply marketing versions.
>>>
>>> What you are really using are the individual specs at a given version.
>>>
>>> For example using DS 1.4, Event 1.0, and logging 1.2 is perfectly fine
>>> combination given you can find providers of each that work together well.
>>> The APIs themselves won't care.
>>>
>>> However some providers actually package OSGi spec APIs which they
>>> provide implementations for, which means if you include the aggregate
>>> companion jars also at runtime you may have two API versions to contend
>>> with.
>>>
>>> You may inadvertently expose yourself to a wrong API version, hence why
>>> they will no longer resolve.
>>>
>>> - Ray
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 12:36 PM Raymond Auge <raymond.a...@liferay.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes and yes.
>>>>
>>>> OSGi started adding the unresolveable requirement at release 6 IIRC. So
>>>> if you are using a prior releases of the companion jars (including cmpn,
>>>> enterprise) they won't give you this failure, so you should upgrade.
>>>>
>>>> *Replacements:* Replace the compendium APIs with their respective
>>>> individual api jars available on maven central, like this one [1].
>>>>
>>>> [1]
>>>> https://search.maven.org/artifact/org.osgi/org.osgi.service.component.annotations/1.4.0/jar
>>>>
>>>> - Ray
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 12:31 PM Martin Petzold <mpetz...@gmx.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks, Raymond! Does this also relate to "org.osgi:osgi.cmpn"? Should
>>>>> I remove this dependency too?
>>>>> Am 02.01.20 um 18:23 schrieb Raymond Auge:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 12:17 PM Martin Petzold via osgi-dev <
>>>>> osgi-dev@mail.osgi.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear OSGi gurus,
>>>>>> I have a dependency on "org.osgi:osgi.core" (7.0.0) in my POM. The
>>>>>> reason is that I need access to the "org.osgi.framework" package. I am
>>>>>> using Maven (3.6) and Tycho (1.5.1) for building. The build platform runs
>>>>>> Debian 10 and Java 11.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *I get the following error:*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Missing requirement: osgi.core 7.0.0.201802012106 requires
>>>>>> 'osgi.unresolvable; (&(!(must.not.resolve=*))(must.not.resolve=*))' but 
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> could not be found
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The "companion jars" are not meant for runtime and since resolving is
>>>>> a runtime operation (even when performed during build, i.e. deployment
>>>>> purposes) should not be included.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> *However, if I remove the dependency I get the following error:*
>>>>>> Missing requirement: my.bundle 0.0.0.qualifier requires
>>>>>> 'java.package; org.osgi.framework 1.7.0' but it could not be found
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This means you have no runtime framework available! Add a runtime
>>>>> dependency on the equinox framework:
>>>>>
>>>>> <dependency>
>>>>>     <groupId>org.eclipse.platform</groupId>
>>>>>     <artifactId>org.eclipse.osgi</artifactId>
>>>>>     <version>3.x.0</version>
>>>>>     <scope>runtime</scope>
>>>>> </dependency>
>>>>> // of course use tycho mechanism for above.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> *What is going wrong? How can I resolve this problem?*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Stack Overflow:
>>>>>> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/59563368/maven-tycho-cannot-resolve-osgi-core-bundle
>>>>>>
>>>>> I'll answer there in a moment.
>>>>>
>>>>> - Ray
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks and kind regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Martin
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