Hi,

The Idea of Stefan is not that far off, as CDI already has something similar. This would not really a complete new feature, but a more convenient way of declaring a reference as a field or constructor injection.

If I'm not mistaken

@Reference
private Optional<FooService> foo;

should be equivilant to

@Reference(cardinality = ReferenceCardinality.OPTIONAL)
private FooService factory;

In CDI this is described here: https://docs.osgi.org/specification/osgi.enterprise/7.0.0/service.cdi.html#service.cdi-reference.optional

BTW: Marks idea is intriguing as well and would be a comfortable solution as well.

Regards,

Jürgen.

Am 23/09/2020 um 07:31 schrieb Fauth Dirk (CAP-SST/ESM1) via osgi-dev:

Hi,

I think the usage of a Java Optional is not correct here. I don’t understand why it should be better to have an Optional that needs to be checked for the empty state compared to a good old null check. IMHO Optionals in Java are good and necessary when thinking of collection processing, but for a field that references a single service I don’t see the benefit. And I am not aware of such support in OSGi DS.

Even your example with the bind method will not work, because the bind method is never invoked if no such service is available and therefore set. So if no service is set your Optional will be null and you are in the same situation as without the Optional. And in the dynamic case of unbinding an existing service, the unbind method is missing to recreate the empty Optional.

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*An:* Stefan Bischof <stbisc...@bipolis.org>; OSGi Developer Mail List <osgi-dev@mail.osgi.org> *Betreff:* Re: [osgi-dev] SCR: ServiceInjection into Fields that are Optional<Service>

Hi Stefan,

I believe Optionals are not optimal for that.

If a service is removed, you would need a new empty optional instance. Optionals doesn't support to hold a state.

In addition to that you don't have callbacks where to get notified about adding, modifying or removing a service.

I could imagine, to get an object similar to the promise injected, that supports the lifecycle callbacks, as well as resolving, unresolving or re-resolving as well as handling cardinality.

A fluent API around the OSGi's ServiveTracker could be a solution. Injecting Optional for just a subset of the supported cases in DS would, from my perspective "pollute" the spec.

Maybe you can realize a custom solution using ServiceHooks?

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Von: Stefan Bischof via osgi-dev <osgi-dev@mail.osgi.org <mailto:osgi-dev@mail.osgi.org>>

Datum: 22.09.20 15:48 (GMT+01:00)

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Betreff: [osgi-dev] SCR: ServiceInjection into Fields that are Optional<Service>

Hi,

I like it to use Optionals if it is possible that a field could be null.


In context of OSGi Services with SCR that means I have to handle it like this:

```

@Component
public class MyComponent
{

    Optional<Foo> oFoo = Optional.empty();

    @Reference(cardinality = ReferenceCardinality.OPTIONAL)
    void bindFoo(Foo foo)
    {
        oFoo = Optional.of(foo);
    }
}

```

What I really want to do is this:

```

@Component
public class MyComponent
{

    @Reference
    Optional<Foo> oFoo;

}

```


We have something like this in OSGi - CDI Integration Specification
https://youtu.be/7-UUJ4WkMsg?t=839 <https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fyoutu.be%2F7-UUJ4WkMsg%3Ft%3D839&data=02%7C01%7Cdirk.fauth%40de.bosch.com%7C51498f5471384847812d08d85f7a1363%7C0ae51e1907c84e4bbb6d648ee58410f4%7C0%7C0%7C637364325203058712&sdata=NgPro2qM5YlFjMxcAuqwhyVgQW0HWQRMUcjUNF1hDjA%3D&reserved=0>

It would be nice to have this feature with the new version of the R8 DS Spec.

Regards

Stefan


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