http://www.kommersant.com/page.asp?id=555184

Our Best Weapon Is Democracy
// The Ukrainian Foreign Minister talks to Kommersant
Official Opinion
The 61st session of the Human Rights Commission has begun in Geneva.
Boris Tarasyuk, the new head of the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry, is
taking part in it for the first time and has already become one of its
biggest newsmakers. His statement, based on the example of the Orange
Revolution, that a people have the right to defend its rights and
freedoms nonviolently. He spoke about the new priorities in Ukrainian
politics in an exclusive interview with Kommersant's Igor Sedykh in
Geneva.
What is the sense of the "new integration" of Ukraine into the
European Union and NATO? The course toward integration was officially
declared in 1991 when the country obtained its independence.

The former leadership of the country, with Leonid Kuchma in charge,
really did say all the time that the goal of Ukraine was entrance into
the EU and NATO. But that was only a declaration. Now we are not only
declaring it, we are acting. President Yushchenko is saying that
European integration and admission to the EU is a priority. Ukrainian
can bring peace, stability and security to the European continent,
especially in areas of conflict. In addition, we are prepared to take
on the mission of cooperating to spread democracy and justice to
neighboring states.

In that connection, they are saying that Ukraine is preparing to
export the Orange Revolution. Is that so?
I spoke before the Human Rights Commission because the Orange
Revolution was an expression of what is the subject of the
commission's activities. The people rose up to fight for their right
for an election, the right to remove a corrupt regime nonviolently.
With that revolution, Ukraine advanced democracy in Europe and the
world. But exporting revolution is not our practice. If the situation
does not arise in a country, if the people's dissatisfaction has not
come to a critical mass and they are not ready to take up the struggle
for its rights and freedoms, no export will help. But we can't help
but see that the Orange revolution has been a magnet for all freedom
fighters.

Then how can Ukraine enable its neighbors confirm the principles of
democracy?

For example, our president has announced his intentions to increase
efforts to reach a settlement of the conflict in Transdniester and, to
achieve that goal, has met with Moldovan President Vladimir Voronin.
We are showing the Moldovan authorities that a solution can be found
even in the most explosive situations. We had a similar situation in
the Crimea, but we solved the problem through negotiations, just as we
did in Sevastopol. The Russian Black Sea Fleet is located there
against our will (unlike the situation in Moldova and Georgia), but in
accordance with our political will. We gave the Russian Black Sea
Fleet the right to be based in our port and rent our facilities, and
that agreement will remain in force until 2017.

What place does Russia have in Ukrainian foreign policy in that context?

Russia should hold one of the key positions among Ukraine's partners
for an obvious reason: Russia is our biggest neighbor. We have
centuries-long ties with Russia, including human ties. Russia is our
biggest trading partner after the EU. Therefore, we have no
alternative to friendly neighborly relations.

What plans does Ukraine have in relation to the common economic space?

There is no common economic space yet. There are framework agreements,
but the common economic space does not exist yet. To form it, about 90
agreements have to be prepared, of which 29 are now ready. Now the
government is studying those documents along with the base framework
again, and only after that analysis is completed will we be ready to
announce our decision.

Kiev's course toward entry into NATO means that Ukraine's huge defense
industry, including tank, plane, missile manufacture, will be changed
from Soviet standards to NATO's. Aren't you worried about losing
Russian purchasers before you have any Western ones?

That is not a real concern for us. Specialists in modern military
technology say that those weapons are the weapons of the last century.
Industry should produce what is in demand. What isn't in demand should
be eliminated from production.

How does this process look to you?

The European Union has proposed that we take part in the Galileo
project [satellite navigation system] and the development of an EU
space project. Today, 13 percent of the world's space launches are
carried out with Ukrainian rockets. We think the An-70 transport plane
may be of interest to the EU as well.

All the same, it seems that they are not overeager to receive Ukraine
into the European Union. After the euphoria of the Orange Revolution
wore off, Europe was more reserved.

Yes. Although we are interested in joining Europe, we have yet to
receive an adequate response from the European Union. Unfortunately,
the EU has no clear concept of Ukraine's future in united Europe. We
are approaching the issue for a realistic perspective. They need time
for that. We have to show that we can do our "homework" and are
already doing so. I hope the EU will reconsider its position fairly soon.

In Geneva, you also took part in the conference on disarmament. You
spoke in favor of destroying "excessive stockpiles of light firearms."
What is that initiative linked to?

When it became independent in 1991, Ukraine inherited the biggest
military complex in the world, with about a million people, the
world's third largest nuclear potential, more than 6000 tanks, and
equal number of armored vehicles, not to mention light weapons. By
rejecting nuclear weaponry and curtailing it traditional weapons and
armed forces, Ukraine made a contribution to the security of Europe
and is now among the countries leading the fight against excessive
armament, especially light firearms. We have no need for excessive
weaponry. Our best weapon is democracy and enlightenment.
by  Igor Sedykh

Russian Article as of Mar. 17, 2005





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