"They are no longer trying to duck this, and have respected their obligation to inform the UN," the Committee member told AFP, adding that the US described the incidents as "isolated acts" carried out by low-ranking members of the military who were being punished.
"They will have to explain themselves" to the committee, the member said. "Nothing should be kept in the dark." A naive U.N. response, given the harshness of the original U.S. interrogations at Guantanemo that prompted the Navy General Counsel, Alberto Mora, to warn the administration about possible war crimes prosecution. The hearings next May might be very interesting considering the data about Guantanemo, other U.S. prison and interrogation centers and the extraordinary rendition process. Recommendations could include referral to the International Criminal Court or establishment of a war crimes tribunal. Not that either recommendation would be recognized by the U.S., but the publicity would be horrendous going into a mid-term Congressional election campaign. David Bier http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20050624/pl_afp/unustortureguantanamo US acknowledges torture at Guantanamo and Iraq, Afghanistan: UN source Fri Jun 24, 3:50 PM ET Washington has for the first time acknowledged to the United Nations that prisoners have been tortured at US detention centres in Guantanamo Bay, as well as Afghanistan and Iraq, a UN source said. The acknowledgement was made in a report submitted to the UN Committee against Torture, said a member of the ten-person panel, speaking on on condition of anonymity. The US mission to the UN institutions in Geneva was unavailable for comment on the report late Friday.. "They are no longer trying to duck this, and have respected their obligation to inform the UN," the Committee member told AFP, adding that the US described the incidents as "isolated acts" carried out by low-ranking members of the military who were being punished. "They will have to explain themselves" to the committee, the member said. "Nothing should be kept in the dark." UN sources said it was the first time the world body has received such a frank statement on torture from US authorities. The Committee, which monitors respect for the Convention against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment, is gathering information from the US ahead of hearings in May 2006. Signatories of the convention are expected to submit to scrutiny of their implementation of the 1984 convention and to provide information to the Committee. The document from Washington will not be formally made public until the hearings. "They haven't avoided anything in their answers, whether concerning prisoners in Iraq, in Afghanistan or Guantanamo, and other accusations of mistreatment and of torture," the Committee member said. "They said it was a question of isolated cases, that there was nothing systematic and that the guilty were in the process of being punished." The US report said that those involved were low-ranking members of the military and that their acts were not approved by their superiors, the member added. The US has faced criticism from UN human rights experts and international groups for mistreatment of detainees -- some of whom died in custody -- in Afghanistan and Iraq, particularly during last year's prisoner abuse scandal surrounding the Abu Ghraib facility there. Scores of US military personnel have been investigated, and several tried and convicted, for abuse of people detained during the US-led campaign against Islamic terrorist groups. At the Guantanamo Bay naval base, a US toehold in Cuba where around 520 suspects of some 40 nationalities are held, allegations of torture have combined with other claims of human rights breaches. The US has faced widespread criticism for keeping the Guantanamo detainees in a "legal black hole," notably for its refusal to grant them prisoner of war status and allegedly sluggish moves to charge or try them. Washington's report to the Committee reaffirms the US position that the Guantanamo detainees are classed as "enemy combatants," and therefore do not benefit from the POW status set out in the Geneva Conventions, the Committee member said. Four UN human rights experts on Thursday slammed the United States for stalling on a request to allow visits to terrorism suspects held at the Guantanamo Bay naval base, and said they planned to carry out an indirect probe of conditions there. -------------------------- Want to discuss this topic? 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